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Chris Meck 04-29-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 18049653)
I don’t understand why this guy slipped? He was our biggest steal in terms of expected mocks ect

Well, he's a particular skill set that doesn't work for some offenses. Take Pittsburgh, for example. He's not a power back. He's not a guy you hand the ball 300 times a season. He's a scat back, a receiving back. You need to balance the workload with a beefier back.

kcbubb 04-29-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by redfan (Post 18047717)
Reminds me a little of Jet McKinnon.
I really liked the Jet, and I really like this pick.

3rd video, that reverse around 2:00…mmm mmm good

Agreed but brashard is gonna have to learn to pass block like McKinnon did. If he can learn to do that, he could be a very productive 3rd down back and special teamer for us. He’s got a lot of potential. The talent is there. He’s just new to the position. Let’s hope he can learn pass pro.

kcbubb 04-29-2025 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18049713)
Well, he's a particular skill set that doesn't work for some offenses. Take Pittsburgh, for example. He's not a power back. He's not a guy you hand the ball 300 times a season. He's a scat back, a receiving back. You need to balance the workload with a beefier back.

Agreed and he’s only played rb for 1 season. He was a wr his whole career.

staylor26 04-29-2025 11:52 AM

Can't wait for the Chiefs to draft a stub RB learly next year to pair with this guy. Pacheco will be a FA. You know it's happening.

Love or Ferguson please!

UChieffyBugger 04-29-2025 12:25 PM

Dude was a RB from the age of 4 up until high-school apparently and despite moving to WR in college he still took some carries with Miami when he was there (had an 80 and 34 yard run in some games for example). So he wasn't just a wideout who woke up one day and got told "you should try playing running-back". Brashard's football foundations were all built from running the ball. Now he's just walking a path that was already paved for him.

staylor26 04-29-2025 08:37 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drafted RBs since 2017 with &gt;10% of their career touches coming on screens (PFF)<br><br>Chiefs take a late round flyer on Brashard Smith <a href="https://t.co/gF6NFZ3Imv">pic.twitter.com/gF6NFZ3Imv</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1917388354598940729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SAGA45 04-30-2025 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18050313)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drafted RBs since 2017 with &gt;10% of their career touches coming on screens (PFF)<br><br>Chiefs take a late round flyer on Brashard Smith <a href="https://t.co/gF6NFZ3Imv">pic.twitter.com/gF6NFZ3Imv</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1917388354598940729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's some damn good company! I've seen a lot of comps of him to James Cook so this further cements those. Good stuff!

TEX 04-30-2025 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 18049754)
Agreed and he’s only played rb for 1 season. He was a wr his whole career.

Not really...Check out his early career. He's a RB, who can catch the ball well enough that enabled him to play WR for a few years.

crispystl 04-30-2025 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18049774)
Can't wait for the Chiefs to draft a stub RB learly next year to pair with this guy. Pacheco will be a FA. You know it's happening.

Love or Ferguson please!

We already drafted a "stub" RB in the first a few years ago...

staylor26 04-30-2025 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 18050400)
We already drafted a "stub" RB in the first a few years ago...

:rolleyes:

BigRedChief 04-30-2025 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 18050396)
Not really...Check out his early career. He's a RB, who can catch the ball well enough that enabled him to play WR for a few years.

If he can set up a screen and run a wheel route, that will help keep that rush more honest.

Bowser 04-30-2025 08:03 AM

It's going to be nice having a legit receiving option out of the backfield again, and not just an outlet receiver. Looking forward to what this kid can do on wheel routes and screens (especially wheel routes one-on-one with a Sam or Mike 'backer).

TEX 04-30-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18050433)
If he can set up a screen and run a wheel route, that will help keep that rush more honest.

Yes! But honestly, I think the Chiefs are counting on at least that much. This guy can really catch the ball anywhere on the field.

UChieffyBugger 04-30-2025 11:55 AM

The TD Kareem Hunt scored on his debut against the Pats when he ran through the middle and caught the ball over his shoulder MUST be back in the playbook. That was a thing of beauty right there.

BWillie 04-30-2025 12:45 PM

I still am just thoroughly confused that people thought our run game was so bad last year...and then they use the prior years as a baseline as if it was better then.

We couldn't rely on shit at the RB position to get a 1st down or score a TD on short yardage for like 3 years until last year. It's almost like we are watching different seasons. You didn't get tired of failing over and over again on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 2 and on goalline with backs?

We are looking GREAT next season at RB.

All-Round back - Pacheco (people worried about his injury are funny. He will be ready to go fully healed now on contract year)
Short yardage back - Hunt
Bruiser - Carson Steele
Home run hitter - Smith
Possible 3rd down back - Mitchell

That is a dream room for what we need out of this offense. We don't utilize backs the way run first teams do. That isn't how we operate. Never has been. Never will be with Andy Reid. This is an IDEAL RB room for us.

kcbubb 04-30-2025 01:14 PM

Great info. He did look like a natural runner, not a wr that converted so that makes sense. I didn’t know that. Thanks for passing along. He doesn’t look like tamarick vanover running the ball!
:D
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 18049839)
Dude was a RB from the age of 4 up until high-school apparently and despite moving to WR in college he still took some carries with Miami when he was there (had an 80 and 34 yard run in some games for example). So he wasn't just a wideout who woke up one day and got told "you should try playing running-back". Brashard's football foundations were all built from running the ball. Now he's just walking a path that was already paved for him.


Mecca 04-30-2025 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18050970)
I still am just thoroughly confused that people thought our run game was so bad last year...and then they use the prior years as a baseline as if it was better then.

We couldn't rely on shit at the RB position to get a 1st down or score a TD on short yardage for like 3 years until last year. It's almost like we are watching different seasons. You didn't get tired of failing over and over again on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 2 and on goalline with backs?

We are looking GREAT next season at RB.

All-Round back - Pacheco (people worried about his injury are funny. He will be ready to go fully healed now on contract year)
Short yardage back - Hunt
Bruiser - Carson Steele
Home run hitter - Smith
Possible 3rd down back - Mitchell

That is a dream room for what we need out of this offense. We don't utilize backs the way run first teams do. That isn't how we operate. Never has been. Never will be with Andy Reid. This is an IDEAL RB room for us.

Because they had no explosion at all, if defenses know a big run in your offense is 8 yards they are going to have zero respect for it which leads to them playing pass every down.

On top of that history has shown very few teams can consistently score without big plays, it's why bend but don't break is a legit defensive strategy.

BWillie 04-30-2025 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18051010)
Because they had no explosion at all, if defenses know a big run in your offense is 8 yards they are going to have zero respect for it which leads to them playing pass every down.

On top of that history has shown very few teams can consistently score without big plays, it's why bend but don't break is a legit defensive strategy.

You don't think teams were playing us to pass on 1st downs before...last year?

O.city 04-30-2025 02:11 PM

They just needed a RB that could actually break off a big play here and there.

A healthy Pacheco can do that.

TEX 05-01-2025 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18050970)
I still am just thoroughly confused that people thought our run game was so bad last year...and then they use the prior years as a baseline as if it was better then.

We couldn't rely on shit at the RB position to get a 1st down or score a TD on short yardage for like 3 years until last year. It's almost like we are watching different seasons. You didn't get tired of failing over and over again on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 2 and on goalline with backs?

We are looking GREAT next season at RB.

All-Round back - Pacheco (people worried about his injury are funny. He will be ready to go fully healed now on contract year)
Short yardage back - Hunt
Bruiser - Carson Steele
Home run hitter - Smith
Possible 3rd down back - Mitchell

That is a dream room for what we need out of this offense. We don't utilize backs the way run first teams do. That isn't how we operate. Never has been. Never will be with Andy Reid. This is an IDEAL RB room for us.

Agree. Except for Steele. Dont want that dude anywhere near the football. Dude was a good story last season when we didnt have much, and before the fumbles, but now KC needs to turn the page.

RealSNR 05-01-2025 06:51 AM

Steele stayed on the roster the entire season. Even for a UDFA contract, that can buy a lot of alligator food

Kiimo 05-01-2025 08:52 AM

What happened to the RUGBY dude lol

RealSNR 05-01-2025 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18051789)
What happened to the RUGBY dude lol


I guess the Jags switched him to WR

Kiimo 05-01-2025 09:21 AM

Here's hoping this guy actually out performs my other training camp RB crushes like Darwin.

Having tons of speed certainly helps though!

RunKC 05-01-2025 09:44 AM

The Chiefs didn’t have an explosive play of 20 or more yards from a RB until November 29th. I get that Pacheco broke his leg but the depth was terrible.

Yes the short yardage situation improved massively but the big play and explosive runs were never there and we didn’t have a back that could be a receiver and made teams pay.

Adding Mitchell and Smith is gonna help this room so much. They’re very versatile and have solid depth for all areas needed from the room.

O.city 05-01-2025 09:59 AM

Get your big explosive plays from the passing game and the run game big plays will come easier.

Kiimo 05-01-2025 10:30 AM

get your big explosive plays also from the receiver playing running back if he runs a 4.3

BWillie 05-01-2025 11:12 AM

I really hope Carson Steele is not on the team, now

Mecca 05-01-2025 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18051034)
You don't think teams were playing us to pass on 1st downs before...last year?

They do but you have to make them pay for that, handing off for 4 yards isn't going to make them pay at all.

Pitt Gorilla 05-01-2025 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18051965)
They do but you have to make them pay for that, handing off for 4 yards isn't going to make them pay at all.

I mean, that sort of is, though. 2nd and 6 opens up quite a few options.

BWillie 05-01-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18051965)
They do but you have to make them pay for that, handing off for 4 yards isn't going to make them pay at all.

Patrick Mahomes Chiefs are the best team that has ever existed on 3rd and medium and 3rd and long.

If there is any team, ever, that doesn't need to run the ball to throw it. It is us.

I do think we need to run more in CERTAIN situations but this idea we need to pound the rock all the time is silly. We also don't like to go for it on 4th down very often compared to league average so that also lends itself to running less.

RunKC 05-01-2025 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18051978)
Patrick Mahomes Chiefs are the best team that has ever existed on 3rd and medium and 3rd and long.

If there is any team, ever, that doesn't need to run the ball to throw it. It is us.

I do think we need to run more in CERTAIN situations but this idea we need to pound the rock all the time is silly. We also don't like to go for it on 4th down very often compared to league average so that also lends itself to running less.

We didn’t have an elusive RB to catch the ball and make people miss. Pacheco had bad hands, Kareem is old and slow and Perine wasn’t very elusive either and had to be schemed.

Finally we have some players who can actually catch passes and make teams pay


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