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notorious 01-15-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8300976)
I have no problem with Fat Scott making drastic changes to the organization... it was long overdue.

The problem is in wins/losses.

The Chiefs are 21-28 under Fat Scott.

The Chiefs could turn their organization into North Korea and if they were winning I could care less.

This.


Again.

htismaqe 01-15-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8300976)
I have no problem with Fat Scott making drastic changes to the organization... it was long overdue.

The problem is in wins/losses.

The Chiefs are 21-28 under Fat Scott.

The Chiefs could turn their organization into North Korea and if they were winning I could care less.

That's the just the thing. Turn them into North Korea or turn them into Hollywood - NEITHER has any effect whatsoever on wins and losses.

It's not suprising that Scott Pioli locks doors and pulls blinds - he thinks those things give him a competitive advantage, just like video taping opposition practices gives an advantage.

O.city 01-15-2012 09:15 PM

Guys, it's all gonna work out.

Next year when Stanzi sets the world ablaze, after we have a fantastic offseason, this will all be ok.

htismaqe 01-15-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8301043)
Guys, it's all gonna work out.

Next year when Stanzi sets the world ablaze, after we have a fantastic offseason, this will all be ok.

I wish I had some of what you're smokin. :)

Dave Lane 01-15-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8297636)
I'm sorry, defiantly continuing to start Palko, knowing he is the worst QB on the roster, is something that should always come back to haunt Haley in the future. He absolutely had to go.

Hi Scott I knew you were here somewhere.

O.city 01-15-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8301053)
I wish I had some of what you're smokin. :)

Nah man.


Stanzi is gonna be the bauce here next year. I really think he will be the next big thing in the league.

NJChiefsFan 01-15-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8301071)
Nah man.


Stanzi is gonna be the bauce here next year. I really think he will be the next big thing in the league.

You have been on a major positive streak recently. I hope you are right, but I can't be that positive about it. I am not even sure what kind of crap will need to happen outside of an injury that lets Stanzi even prove that next year.

O.city 01-15-2012 10:07 PM

He's gonna go into training camp, after having a great offseason. He's gonna work his ass off wanting to become the guy in KC.

He then will beat out Matt Cassel as the starter, in a training camp competition.

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU (Post 8300935)
For a small bit of insight on where I'm coming from with all of this, check this out.

I mentioned in a previous post about the place I used to work got raided by the FBI and the news coverage of it was completely false and misleading. Here is the actual news clip from that day. Take a look, it's only 45 seconds.

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After watching that, let me now tell you the facts in order of what they had wrong (which was nearly everything.)

- DealExpress does not have 8 locations. They have 1 single location.

- They were not investigating pirated product, but rather counterfeit product. While similar, these things are different and the misuse of terminology can drastically effect ones view of the story.

- It didn't have anything to do with general electronics like TVs or stereo's at all. It was Cisco networking equipment that was being questioned.

- The 50+ FBI agents (that part was actually accurate) found 3 small, empty Cisco boxes which were proven to be legit and came from Cisco themselves. You can actually see the guy carrying these 3 boxes onto a truck at the end of the clip when the guy says "agents loaded up rental trucks with evidence" as if they had truck loads of stuff. Nope, just 3 small, legit boxes.

Rather than report about how much of a waste of tax payer money it was having 50+ FBI agents raid this place, and rather than provide ANY of the information that we employees gave them which completely negated everything they were trying to dig up (at 24 seconds you'll see me in the background getting interviewed by an FBI agent), they proceeded to fabricate this entire story because eBay fraud was a hot topic at the time.

This was the day I decided I would never take anything from the media seriously again.

Now, that was a long example of why I do NOT think this will effect our future coaching hires. These coaches and people in the NFL in general live this type of thing every single day with the media. They see first hand how full of shit the media is all the time, and I highly doubt they would ever allow it to weigh on their minds during an important decision they're making about their own lives.

And again, I understand your distrust, but I'd also say that lumping this kind of a story with a trashy expose` is ridiculous. I used to work right next to a PR guy and have taken several writing classes. Trust me, I know the ins and outs of how the media will manipulate a story. One news station doing one of those stupid consumer protection exposes got a tip from a disgruntled employee that the company was throwing out customer records in a dumpster instead of shredding them. 100% untrue. Our PR guy was calling nonstop for a week, but the guy refused to listen to his story. Instead, the guy went on air without us being allowed to say a single word to defend ourself. I know the way the system works.

This, on the other hand, is a well-written story. You may disagree with what Babb has to say. But it's well sourced, it's balanced in viewpoint, and it doesn't appear that any quotes were taken out of context. And in most cases, the accused party was allowed to present their side of the story. And most of the accusations made in this story were confirmed as true by Donovan and Farmer, two guys who appear to be pro-Pioli.

Molitoth 01-15-2012 10:37 PM

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After a while, a saying was adopted by top administrators for behavior that didn’t fit the new standards: “That’s so 2-and-14,” they would say, referring to the Chiefs’ win-loss record in 2008
After a while, a saying is going to be adopted by top administrators for behavior that didn't fit the new standards: "That's so Matt Cassel".

Messier 01-15-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8301060)
Hi Scott I knew you were here somewhere.

Hi Mrs. Haley, knew you were here too.

boogblaster 01-16-2012 12:00 AM

kneel before me ... and laid down your arms ... ive done nothing but build a better team and surround it with loyal servants .. scott ......

Sorter 01-16-2012 01:25 AM

While I agree with the idea that Stanzi will prove himself next year, I doubt it happens as a week 1 starter. I bet that we suffer through a few weeks of Cassel performances before it takes place

MMXcalibur 01-16-2012 05:52 AM

Are we..um......are we being watched....?

Chief Henry 01-16-2012 08:30 AM

If this NEW hardass mngt. style leads to success on the field (so far it hasn't) then we will all be happy, very happy. This organization NEEDED massive amounts of CHANGE. Pioli has the keys, for now.


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