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whoman69 10-10-2012 12:48 PM

IMO the whole thing comes down to a GM that can't admit a $60 million mistake, a coach who has no pull to override the GM because the GM was handed the keys by an owner who would rather be watching soccer. The owner is in it for the legacy of his father which he has no knowlege or inclination to add to, and as a business. Despite the empty seats, the Chiefs still make money. Could they make more? They'd have to spend more money.

InChiefsHeaven 10-10-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8998495)
I think a lot of Planeteers and Chiefs fans in general are still sipping the left-over Kool Aid that's been sitting in the back of the fridge for 3 years.

Roleo doesn't give a tinker's damn about winning. He doesn't give a damn about the Chiefs and he doesn't give a damn about the fans. He's here to wrap up the twilight of a career and support his old buddy, Dr. Evil.

People talk about his laid-back personality, but he hasn't always been that way and he doesn't have to be that way now. The fact of the matter is that the fire in old Roleo burned out some time ago.

Meanwhile, Piolio is sticking it to the fans whenever he can. He views us as a bunch of redneck, tractor riders who wouldn't know which fork to use at a dinner party. He's an elitist megalomaniac and we are the fly-over-state dumbasses who are supposed to snap up tickets for an 8 and 8 team and, when they don't, they need to #getaclue.

We're caught up in a perfect storm of absentee, mainly emotionally-detached owner, narcissistic GM, and indifferent head coach. At this point, caring about this team is, as Mr. Iowanian would say, akin to sending love letters to your bad girlfriend.

Cassel is a symptom. Not the disease. And that, my friends, is the sad, horrifying truth of it all.

FAX

FFS, How many forks are there supposed to be?

Micjones 10-10-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8998740)
IMO the whole thing comes down to a GM that can't admit a $60 million mistake, a coach who has no pull to override the GM because the GM was handed the keys by an owner who would rather be watching soccer. The owner is in it for the legacy of his father which he has no knowlege or inclination to add to, and as a business. Despite the empty seats, the Chiefs still make money. Could they make more? They'd have to spend more money.

I don't get why Romeo's afraid either. What's Pioli going to do if he benches Cassel, fire him? He won't survive another in-season firing. Firing a head coach because he won't follow the GM's marching orders for one particular player (who stinks) is bad bad PR. Pioli doesn't want that at this point.

I'm baffled by the reluctance to make a move EVERYONE now agrees this organization must make.

FAX 10-10-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8998793)
I don't get why Romeo's afraid either. What's Pioli going to do if he benches Cassel, fire him? He won't survive another in-season firing. Firing a head coach because he won't follow the GM's marching orders for one particular player (who stinks) is bad bad PR. Pioli doesn't want that at this point.

I'm baffled by the reluctance to make a move EVERYONE now agrees this organization must make.

Be baffled no more, Mr. Micjones.

They don't give a sh*t.

It's really that simple.

FAX

Hammock Parties 10-10-2012 01:10 PM

I'll give you the best reason they won't bench Cassel:

Brady Quinn is a POS.

Titty Meat 10-10-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8998804)
I'll give you the best reason they won't bench Cassel:

Brady Quinn is a POS.

Yup. Pioli assembled the most talented team picking top 5 ROFL GM of the millenium.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2012 01:17 PM

We are gonna be the best 5-11 team ever.

Crush 10-10-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8998823)
We are gonna be the best 5-11 team ever.

At least we won five games. /Hermeo

Micjones 10-10-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8998801)
Be baffled no more, Mr. Micjones.

They don't give a sh*t.

It's really that simple.

FAX

I don't buy that. I think every party involved wants to win.
They may not have the right formula for winning, but I don't think anyone in this organization is comfortable with where this franchise is.

FAX 10-10-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8998895)
I don't buy that. I think every party involved wants to win.
They may not have the right formula for winning, but I don't think anyone in this organization is comfortable with where this franchise is.

Let's look at it this way;

Let's say 0 is "Wants to lose" and 10 is "Wants to win". We are functioning as though we are somewhere in the 5 range.

For example, Roleo just informed us that we should be happy we didn't lose the last game 40 to 10. That should tell you everything you need to know about the commitment to winning that permeates this organization.

I know that we all want to believe they really care and desire success. Show me the evidence that it's true.

FAX

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8998895)
I don't buy that. I think every party involved wants to win.
They may not have the right formula for winning, but I don't think anyone in this organization is comfortable with where this franchise is.


Lamar Hunt was more than content from 1972-1986 when the Chiefs missed the playoffs each and ever year, finished with such stellar records at 2-12 and three consecutive 5-9 records.

This team is currently in the midst of of an almost two decade playoff win drought and for some reason, you believe the owner is uncomfortable?

Why? It's their natural territory.

Micjones 10-10-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8998903)
Let's look at it this way;

Let's say 0 is "Wants to lose" and 10 is "Wants to win". We are functioning as though we are somewhere in the 5 range.

For example, Roleo just informed us that we should be happy we didn't lose the last game 40 to 10. That should tell you everything you need to know about the commitment to winning that permeates this organization.

I know that we all want to believe they really care and desire success. Show me the evidence that it's true.

FAX

Who cares what's he's saying in post-game press conferences?
Press conferences in pro sports aren't exactly platforms for transparency.

The team stinks. That's all I care about.
We're seeing the Peter Principle in play for Crennel.
He may not have anything convincing or reassuring to say because well...he may not have an answer. That's a problem, but that doesn't suggest to me that he doesn't care.

Micjones 10-10-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8998911)
Lamar Hunt was more than content from 1972-1986 when the Chiefs missed the playoffs each and ever year, finished with such stellar records at 2-12 and three consecutive 5-9 records.

This team is currently in the midst of of an almost two decade playoff win drought and for some reason, you believe the owner is uncomfortable?

Why? It's their natural territory.

Which is why he started the current administration by making Pioli the highest-paid GM in the NFL? Because he doesn't give a shit?

I look at this organization and see poor decisions being made in key areas, not apathy.

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8998959)
Which is why he started the current administration by making Pioli the highest-paid GM in the NFL? Because he doesn't give a shit?

If Clark really cared, he would have addressed the media by now.

Not only was there a banner flown over Arrowhead for an hour asking for the firing of his hand-picked GM and starting QB, but it received massive national attention as well.

Furthermore, their highest profile and highest paid 2012 free agent acquisition just accused 70,000 Chiefs fans in attendance this past Sunday as being "sick".

If there was ever a time for a statement from Clark Hunt, it would be now.

Micjones 10-10-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8998971)
If Clark really cared, he would have addressed the media by now.

We're only 5 games into the season. He may still do that.
I'm more concerned about what he's doing behind closed doors anyway.

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Not only was there a banner flown over Arrowhead for an hour asking for the firing of his hand-picked GM and starting QB, but it received massive national attention as well.

Furthermore, their highest profile and highest paid 2012 free agent acquisition just accused 70,000 Chiefs fans in attendance this past Sunday as being "sick".

If there was ever a time for a statement from Clark Hunt, it would be now.
I'd actually prefer to hear from the GM, but I don't disagree with you entirely.
I still don't think that suggests he simply doesn't care. He bears a proud football family name. I can't imagine he's okay with seeing his franchise flailing about the way they are right now.


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