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Donger 02-24-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7451542)
They would bring in the military to prevent sabotage of the oil flow and try to prevent fires

I'm not sure about that.

BigMeatballDave 02-24-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7451542)
They would bring in the military to prevent sabotage of the oil flow and try to prevent fires

The US needs to stay the **** away from these protests.

R8RFAN 02-24-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7451546)
I'm not sure about that.

They wouldn't let them blow up the wells man... They saved Kuwaits bacon, they will do the same for SA

R8RFAN 02-24-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7451547)
The US needs to stay the **** away from these protests.

Sad to say it but if the USA does not get involved, we may very well see 10.00 a gallon gas

Donger 02-24-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7451549)
They wouldn't let them blow up the wells man... They saved Kuwaits bacon, they will do the same for SA

I don't see why any revolt by the Saudi population would include them destroying by far their biggest source of wealth.

Retreating Iraqis set fire to Kuwait's production as a method of scorched earth.

R8RFAN 02-24-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7451555)
I don't see why any revolt by the Saudi population would include them destroying by far their biggest source of wealth.

Retreating Iraqis set fire to Kuwait's production as a method of scorched earth.

If the Government was about to be overthrown they would probably be the ones setting the fires

BigMeatballDave 02-24-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7451549)
They wouldn't let them blow up the wells man... They saved Kuwaits bacon, they will do the same for SA

No dice. This is NOT the same. Not even close.

R8RFAN 02-24-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7451563)
No dice. This is NOT the same. Not even close.

Let's hope you are right

BigMeatballDave 02-24-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7451566)
Let's hope you are right

Its civil unrest. Or something like that. the People vs their own governing body. You cannot have a foreign entity(US Military)intervening. Thats an entirely different can of worms.

Donger 02-28-2011 08:24 AM

National average for gasoline is now $3.35/gallon. The "good" news is that crude seems to have stabilized near the $100 mark.

Donger 03-02-2011 11:22 AM

Crude has pushed through $100/barrel today and is trading near $102. Gasoline at $3.38. The "good" news is that the big push in crude has now made it's way into the retail pricing.

BigMeatballDave 03-02-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7462098)
The "good" news is that the big push in crude has now made it's way into the retail pricing.

Explain, please.

Donger 03-02-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7462171)
Explain, please.

The present retail price of gasoline includes the recent ~10% increase in crude pricing. So, without another very quick jump in crude, gasoline prices should stabilize around $3.40 for the time being.

Deberg_1990 03-02-2011 11:51 AM

$3.19 and holding steady in my area...

BigMeatballDave 03-02-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7462186)
The present retail price of gasoline includes the recent ~10% increase in crude pricing. So, without another very quick jump in crude, gasoline prices should stabilize around $3.40 for the time being.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

Bowser 03-02-2011 11:54 AM

So how long will this surge in gas prices last until the prices fall out like they did last time, a few years ago? I remember gas was nearly 4 bucks a gallon, then bottomed out around $1.20/gal in my area.

Donger 03-02-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7462198)
So how long will this surge in gas prices last until the prices fall out like they did last time, a few years ago? I remember gas was nearly 4 bucks a gallon, then bottomed out around $1.20/gal in my area.

As always, it depends on what happens with the price of crude.

Deberg_1990 03-02-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7462198)
I remember gas was nearly 4 bucks a gallon, then bottomed out around $1.20/gal in my area.

yea, that was crazy....all within a 4 or 5 month span too...

I remember telling Donger that we would never see gas below $2.00 again a few months before that happened.

Bowser 03-02-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7462204)
As always, it depends on what happens with the price of crude.

Maybe it pisses me off that I'm not one making hand over fist money off of it, but there is something very wrong with betting on the "futures" of a product.

BigMeatballDave 03-02-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7462208)
yea, that was crazy....all within a 4 or 5 month span too...

I remember telling Donger that we would never see gas below $2.00 again a few months before that happened.

It peaked in July 08 around $144/barrel then plummeted over the next 5 months. NO ONE thought we'd see gas that low again. I certainly didnt.

Bowser 03-02-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7462208)
yea, that was crazy....all within a 4 or 5 month span too...

I remember telling Donger that we would never see gas below $2.00 again a few months before that happened.

Yeah, I was shocked it got that low. I'm kind of in that mindset again, now.

Donger 03-02-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7462208)
yea, that was crazy....all within a 4 or 5 month span too...

I remember telling Donger that we would never see gas below $2.00 again a few months before that happened.

Didn't I tell you that it would? I can't remember.

Deberg_1990 03-02-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7462226)
Didn't I tell you that it would? I can't remember.


I think so......

Bugeater 03-02-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7462198)
So how long will this surge in gas prices last until the prices fall out like they did last time, a few years ago? I remember gas was nearly 4 bucks a gallon, then bottomed out around $1.20/gal in my area.

$1.20? NFW

It barely dipped under 2.00 here.

Pitt Gorilla 03-02-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7462462)
$1.20? NFW

It barely dipped under 2.00 here.

Love the Showbiz sig.

Donger 03-02-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7462462)
$1.20? NFW

It barely dipped under 2.00 here.

The national average dropped to $1.50 or so in December 2008, so $1.20 local pricing could have happened.

Deberg_1990 03-02-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7462462)
$1.20? NFW

It barely dipped under 2.00 here.

Where do u live? I was in KC Christmas of 08 and i remember gas being really cheap around that time.....

Bugeater 03-02-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7462493)
Where do u live? I was in KC Christmas of 08 and i remember gas being really cheap around that time.....

Omaha. I remember it dropping to $1.90 or so for a short time.

BigMeatballDave 03-02-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7462462)
$1.20? NFW

It barely dipped under 2.00 here.

You sure, because it dropped to around 1.35 after Thanksgiving in my area then.

The Mad Crapper 03-02-2011 03:49 PM

Oil prices rose near $102 per barrel Wednesday as fighting escalated in Libya and petroleum demand grew in the U.S.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/.../us_oil_prices

InChiefsHeaven 03-02-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mad Crapper (Post 7462830)
Oil prices rose near $102 per barrel Wednesday as fighting escalated in Libya and petroleum demand grew in the U.S.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/.../us_oil_prices

Should have been drilling the shit out of the Gulf and Alaska 3 years ago...

007 03-02-2011 11:25 PM

32 cent increase in the past 7 days. Screw you speculators. Screw you congress. Screw you Obama.

It is was OK to blame Bush.....

KurtCobain 03-02-2011 11:27 PM

I hate everybody now. I'd burn down the world if I could afford the gas.

Bugeater 03-02-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7463695)
32 cent increase in the past 7 days. Screw you speculators. Screw you congress. Screw you Obama.

It is was OK to blame Bush.....

It doesn't matter who the president is, it's still the same bunch of crooks running the show.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-02-2011 11:44 PM

It plummeted to $33 a barrel after the speculative bubble burst.

BIG K 03-02-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7463707)
It doesn't matter who the president is, it's still the same bunch of crooks running the show.

this. I paid 4.72 a gallon to fill up my diesel today.....

Jerm 03-03-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7463695)
32 cent increase in the past 7 days. Screw you speculators. Screw you congress. Screw you Obama.

It is was OK to blame Bush.....

Yay, only gonna get worse. :rolleyes:

007 03-03-2011 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7463707)
It doesn't matter who the president is, it's still the same bunch of crooks running the show.

I know. I just wanted to see what it felt like to blame Obama.

Still kills me that the media is not saying much about it at all.

Bowser 03-03-2011 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 7463752)
this. I paid 4.72 a gallon to fill up my diesel today.....

Good lord.

R8RFAN 03-03-2011 04:22 AM

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/113/02222011042.jpg

penguinz 03-03-2011 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7463937)

It too that much to fill your tank? WTF do you drive?

Deberg_1990 03-03-2011 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 7462858)
Should have been drilling the shit out of the Gulf and Alaska 3 years ago...


Same old song and dance....everyone bitches about gas and what to do about it when its high....then it crashes and goes back down again and everyone forgets about it alternatives and it goes on everyones back burner...then 2 or 3 years later, wash, rinse, repeat....

Imon Yourside 03-03-2011 07:47 AM

Going to keep trending upwards to $4 plus soon and keep going until end of 2012 when we FINALLY will drill here in America.

R8RFAN 03-03-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 7463951)
It too that much to fill your tank? WTF do you drive?

1994 Mazda takes about 45 bucks to fill up down here in NC

Msmith 03-03-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7463780)
I know. I just wanted to see what it felt like to blame Obama.

Still kills me that the media is not saying much about it at all.

I remembered 2 years ago everyone was blaming GW and his oil baron friends.

chasedude 03-03-2011 12:35 PM

Reg 87 octane gas is 3.35 in St Joseph. I know we're always below the avg here in town but just curious what others are seeing.

Oh and Crude is down 1.31 atm @ 100.92

Com'n end the speculation and drop the price!!!

InChiefsHeaven 03-03-2011 01:35 PM

3.39 for regular unleaded in Council Bluffs IA.

BigMeatballDave 03-03-2011 01:49 PM

3.49

Donger 03-04-2011 05:34 PM

Crude up to $104.42 today (+2.46%).

007 03-04-2011 05:38 PM

yeah, can't wait until we can't afford to go on vacation next year.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7467141)
yeah, can't wait until we can't afford to go on vacation next year.

Just stick it on the credit card man.....

Donger 03-04-2011 05:39 PM

$3.46 national average. Up $0.35 since last month.

007 03-04-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7467144)
Just stick it on the credit card man.....

I never charge more than I can afford to pay each month. Between gas and food prices we are having to cut on a lot of the other things. Just remember, Obama stated he wanted us paying $5 for gas. Looks like he is going to get what he wanted.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7467162)
I never charge more than I can afford to pay each month. Between gas and food prices we are having to cut on a lot of the other things. Just remember, Obama stated he wanted us paying $5 for gas. Looks like he is going to get what he wanted.

You are correct sir

Donger 03-04-2011 05:51 PM

Chaps, this really is isn't the place for politics.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467169)
Chaps, this really is isn't the place for politics.

Gas prices are nothing but politics... regardless if the president is a Liberal or Conservative, the results are always the same...

teedubya 03-04-2011 05:53 PM

dollar down... crude oil up... silver up... New 31 year high today for silver. $35.67

Donger 03-04-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7467172)
Gas prices are nothing but politics... regardless if the president is a Liberal or Conservative, the results are always the same...

I'll ask again: please refrain. Thanks. If you want to have a discussion about Obama's quote on gasoline prices (which he did make), please do so in DC.

007 03-04-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467182)
I'll ask again: please refrain. Thanks. If you want to have a discussion about Obama's quote on gasoline prices (which he did make), please do so in DC.

This thread will be fine Donger. Politics has been brought up several times since the inception of this thread and it is still civil here.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467182)
I'll ask again: please refrain. Thanks. If you want to have a discussion about Obama's quote on gasoline prices (which he did make), please do so in DC.

I didn't say a damn thing about Obama... You did, please refrain from not reading posts and place your blame accordingly... Thanks

teedubya 03-04-2011 05:59 PM

You can't separate fuel prices from political discussion. They are one in the same.

Donger 03-04-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7467186)
This thread will be fine Donger. Politics has been brought up several times since the inception of this thread and it is still civil here.

Meh. Whatever.

Bugeater 03-04-2011 06:01 PM

It's not an official political discussion until one of the DC shitbags shows up.

WV 03-04-2011 06:01 PM

$3.59 in WV now....this state's gasoline tax is stupid. Luckily I can drive about 15 minutes either way and save money in MD or VA.

Donger 03-04-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7467189)
You can't separate fuel prices from political discussion. They are one in the same.

Just as Bush had VERY little to do with the price of crude, so does Obama have VERY little to do with it.

A discussion about whether or not Obama WANTS high gasoline prices doesn't belong in the Lounge, IMO.

That's not the same as a random, "fucking Bush!" or "fucking Obama" rant, IMO.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7467197)
$3.59 in WV now....this state's gasoline tax is stupid. Luckily I can drive about 15 minutes either way and save money in MD or VA.

I use to run thru WV everyday... Fuel and gas prices have always been insane there...

Lowest prices I see are Wytheville Va and just across the line in SC around Gaffney

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:06 PM

I still don't see a decrease in traffic....

They could charge 10 bucks a gallon and people would still be riding around all night.

Donger 03-04-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7467206)
I still don't see a decrease in traffic....

They could charge 10 bucks a gallon and people would still be riding around all night.

I'm of the opinion that the pain threshold is around $3.50/gallon. It looks like we'll see that soon.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467208)
I'm of the opinion that the pain threshold is around $3.50/gallon. It looks like we'll see that soon.

3.49 this morning here at 5 am and been the same for like 3 days ... I didn't look at it today but I am sure it's higher with the spike today.

Ugly Duck 03-04-2011 06:23 PM

Just paid $4.09 in the North Bay

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7467239)
Just paid $4.09 in the North Bay

Ya but thats Kookafornia... Yall don't count..:thumb:

Bowser 03-04-2011 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467208)
I'm of the opinion that the pain threshold is around $3.50/gallon. It looks like we'll see that soon.

Agreed. Diesel is the real focus for me. It gets up over 4 natiowide, I'm thinking truckers are going to start shutting it down like they did last time, and there will be problems getting supplies moved across the nation.

Bowser 03-04-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 7467239)
Just paid $4.09 in the North Bay

I'm more shocked at the 2.5 million you dropped on that 1400 sq. ft., 2 BR, 1 BA detached 1 car garage house.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7467249)
Agreed. Diesel is the real focus for me. It gets up over 4 natiowide, I'm thinking truckers are going to start shutting it down like they did last time, and there will be problems getting supplies moved across the nation.

High fuel prices only hurt independent guys, huge trucking companies especially LTL loves high fuel prices because of the surcharges on every shipment....

Bowser 03-04-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 7467254)
High fuel prices only hurt independent guys, huge trucking companies especially LTL loves high fuel prices because of the surcharges on every shipment....

Oh yeah, they definitely get theirs, but the independents play a big role in all of this. There's a ton of them out there, and if they all decide to shut it down due to prices, it would be bad.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7467262)
Oh yeah, they definitely get theirs, but the independents play a big role in all of this. There's a ton of them out there, and if they all decide to shut it down due to prices, it would be bad.

Right now there are far too many trucks and not enough freight.... Independents are a dying breed, been in this business for over 25 years now and the ones who are still in it aren't making much money after they buy the tires and fuel... Alot of them take loads to get back home that hardly even pay the fuel.

Not much profit in Truckload services anyway as compared to LTL where there can be 20 or so small shipments or more in every pup trailer going to 20 different places with a fuel surcharge on every single shipment, the big boys can't lose when the fuel goes up but then again, I think they are trying to squeeze the independents out anyway and have tried for a very long time... they almost have the task accomplished

007 03-04-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7467190)
Meh. Whatever.

Sorry if I have offended you. I am just kind of irritated that it was OK to blame one president but not the other.

I do know that the president has very little control over it. The media just pisses me off.

R8RFAN 03-04-2011 07:35 PM

http://www.moonbattery.com/gas-prices.jpg

I know, repost from about 1999

Over-Head 03-04-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7467249)
Agreed. Diesel is the real focus for me. It gets up over 4 natiowide, I'm thinking truckers are going to start shutting it down like they did last time, and there will be problems getting supplies moved across the nation.

Itys what eventually put small independents like me out of the buisness in the 90's, just couldn't compete with the larger companies and their bulk fuel buying discounts

R8RFAN 03-06-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head (Post 7467374)
Itys what eventually put small independents like me out of the buisness in the 90's, just couldn't compete with the larger companies and their bulk fuel buying discounts

How do you have a million as an owner operator? Start out with 2 million

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