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DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9888731)
Even watching film, there can be honest disagreements in the NFL who the best guard is during a given season. If you asked 10 different NFL GMs to rank the best 20 guards, you'll get 10 different answers, some widely different. You get tiers of players and that is about as good as you will be able to define things, and even then there is disagreement. Then there is week to week variation. In Sandbox you will never be provided with a list of all the starting guards ranked 1-48. You won't see ratings for strength, speed, agility. You'll know player x made 3 key blocks in the run game, got beat 2, allowed 1 sack and 2 pressures, etc. All of those numbers are context specific, depending on opponents, formations, the RB, the QB, and stochastic variation. There is always fog.

Okay - that I agree with. The bold is really want I'm looking for.

Because you can set every GM and scout in the league in a room, have them watch a player for an entire game and 'score' each play and you're probably going to get and 80% overlap.

I'm not looking for a ranking by any means. What I'd like to see is exactly what you have planned - a 'film study'. I'll decide what to do with that information from there.

Additionally, I'd still love to see the sims broken into halves. It gives us that much more variability and gameplay experience. It also allows some in-game tinkering that wouldn't necessarily blow a season for you.

Rain Man 08-15-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888775)
I'm the Sandbox 90s Chiefs.

29-3 in the regular season, 0-2 in the playoffs. At home.

My QB is even a choke artist.

dfbdsomsdofdsifjosjfdsofjdsfdsf


Are you playing not to lose?

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 08:40 PM

The sad, ironic truth of this is that I have absolutely ZERO patience for the real Alex Smith now.

If he isn't as badass as Sandbox Alex Smith, I'm going to be thinking evil thoughts all season long.

These simulations are twisting my football allegiances.

lostcause 08-15-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888780)
Okay - that I agree with. The bold is really want I'm looking for.

Because you can set every GM and scout in the league in a room, have them watch a player for an entire game and 'score' each play and you're probably going to get and 80% overlap.

I'm not looking for a ranking by any means. What I'd like to see is exactly what you have planned - a 'film study'. I'll decide what to do with that information from there.

Additionally, I'd still love to see the sims broken into halves. It gives us that much more variability and gameplay experience. It also allows some in-game tinkering that wouldn't necessarily blow a season for you.

I think these are good ideas. Halftime adjustments are really becoming a neccessity so teams aren't locked into a gameplan all game long that is an obvious disaster.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9888772)
This time I get to play the revenge card.

When the game's over, I'm positive the coaches will meet at the 50 and shake hands.

I think there's a lot of mutual respect between these squads.

Good luck and may the best man win. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the pound to get some more kittens. I hope they have a few more of those fluffy little tabbies. Aaron really liked those white feet.

lostcause 08-15-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888789)
The sad, ironic truth of this is that I have absolutely ZERO patience for the real Alex Smith now.

If he isn't as badass as Sandbox Alex Smith, I'm going to be thinking evil thoughts all season long.

These simulations are twisting my football allegiances.

You know, he was like a 20th round draft pick for me in the start up draft. It's like an endless Christmas.

lostcause 08-15-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888796)
When the game's over, I'm positive the coaches will meet at the 50 and shake hands.

I think there's a lot of mutual respect between these squads.

Good luck and may the best man win. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the pound to get some more kittens. I hope they have a few more of those fluffy little tabbies. Aaron really liked those white feet.

I can't say I'm sad to see Harvin on the sideline for this one though. If I remember right, he ate Champ Bailey up earlier in the season.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9888839)
I can't say I'm sad to see Harvin on the sideline for this one though. If I remember right, he ate Champ Bailey up earlier in the season.

Rod Streater hasn't been the walking first down that Harvin was, but he's been credible. Sleep on him at your own peril.

TambaBerry 08-15-2013 09:02 PM

Just want to throw this out there, fort Wayne is fourth in the league against the rum and freaking shitty Daryl Washington ran for 186 what a joke.

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:02 PM

Anchorage BETTER beat Clearwater at this point.

Because I KNOW my offense is better than Clearwater's. Front to back. Sideline to sideline. No question.

This sim is FUBAR if Clearwater's offense gets off next week.

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888877)
Rod Streater hasn't been the walking first down that Harvin was, but he's been credible. Sleep on him at your own peril.

He's more productive than Dez....

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888882)
Anchorage BETTER beat Clearwater at this point.

Because I KNOW my offense is better than Clearwater's. Front to back. Sideline to sideline. No question.

This sim is FUBAR if Clearwater's offense gets off next week.

It's setting up nicely for a 2011 repeat.
Anchorage vs. Denver
Anchorage vs. Clearwater
Clearwater vs. Vision

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:10 PM

Percy Harvin 12 9 197 0 21.85 1

That's from 2011's conference championship. I'm really happy now that he's not playing.

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:11 PM

****, I just checked last year's playoff abortion.

I had MORE YARDS AND MORE POINTS LAST YEAR.

WITHOUT CJ SPILLER AND ASSORTED UPGRADES.

I'm going to go find a rabbit and kill it.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9888914)
Percy Harvin 12 9 197 0 21.85 1

That's from 2011's conference championship. I'm really happy now that he's not playing.

Oh I said it before, I'll say it again - there's been no greater loss in Sandbox this year than Percy Harvin.

He's just an unquestioned badass. And that doesn't even take into account how dangerous he's been as a kick returner. Losing Harvin hurts and it hurts a lot.

But this isn't a kitten you're playing. There's still some talent here.

Don't expect us to roll over and die for you like those choking saps from Denver.

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888926)
Don't expect us to roll over and die for you like those choking saps from Denver.

LMAO

Just remember our regular season meeting.

Two years in a row you've lucked out. ONE OF THESE DAYS CLEARWATER.

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888926)
Oh I said it before, I'll say it again - there's been no greater loss in Sandbox this year than Percy Harvin.

He's just an unquestioned badass. And that doesn't even take into account how dangerous he's been as a kick returner. Losing Harvin hurts and it hurts a lot.

But this isn't a kitten you're playing. There's still some talent here.

Don't expect us to roll over and die for you like those choking saps from Denver.

Don't worry, you never look past the defending title holder. Especially if they knocked you out of the playoffs the year before.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888929)
LMAO

Just remember our regular season meeting.

Two years in a row you've lucked out. ONE OF THESE DAYS CLEARWATER.

I actually wanted another shot at you.

I always hold a little back in the regular season to get a feel for what I'm working with. This year was no different. There was a couple of key plays in that game where, had they gone otherwise, could've easily made the difference.

And knowing Tom Brady's playoff track record, I was pretty confident I could be the guy to send you into a foaming rage this season.

But hey, I do appreciate Anchorage doing it for me. Those guys really do own you.

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9888942)
But hey, I do appreciate Anchorage doing it for me. Those guys really do own you.

LMAO

It's doubly annoying this year, because I had that team's number in the regular season.

Sandbagging in Week 16 or not, I OWNED him in Week 10.

I'm going to enter the offseason chasing a friggin' 9-7 team. And believe me, I'm not standing pat with this roster. Something has to be done about this.

TambaBerry 08-15-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9888881)
Just want to throw this out there, fort Wayne is fourth in the league against the rum and freaking shitty Daryl Washington ran for 186 what a joke.

I mean Daryl Richardson not the linebacker

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888951)
LMAO

It's doubly annoying this year, because I had that team's number in the regular season.

Sandbagging in Week 16 or not, I OWNED him in Week 10.

I'm going to enter the offseason chasing a friggin' 9-7 team. And believe me, I'm not standing pat with this roster. Something has to be done about this.

It's cool. I'm happy being 1-2 against the Sandbox Donkeys this year.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9888958)
It's cool. I'm happy being 1-2 against the Sandbox Donkeys this year.

{snicker}

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:27 PM

This is how Peyton Manning feels, basically.

Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady (irony) sitting around laughing at him.

lostcause 08-15-2013 09:29 PM

4th Q 6:42 1st and goal Anchorage 2 Tom Brady passes incomplete to Roddy White.
4th Q 6:35 2nd and goal Anchorage 2 Tom Brady passes complete to Torrey Smith for a gain of 1 yards.
4th Q 6:12 3rd and goal Anchorage 1 Tom Brady passes, batted at the line of scrimage incomplete.
4th Q 6:05 4th and goal Anchorage 1 Tom Brady sacked by J.J. Watt for a loss of -8 yards. Turned over on downs
Anchorage 24, Denver 9

^^Classic sandbox moment right here

rageeumr 08-15-2013 09:31 PM

This sucks.

Alfred Morris. Home Run Threat. Longest run of 2012 was 39 yards.

In this game he went for 55, 67, and 82.

He's this year's Sandbox Sproles.

Can't blame the sim, though. My run D has been weak all year and it finally bit me in the ass.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9888967)
This is how Peyton Manning feels, basically.

Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady (irony) sitting around laughing at him.

HAHA!

Honestly, I'm not even laughing at you there; that's a legitimately hilarious observation.

Well done, sir.

Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9888972)
4th Q 6:42 1st and goal Anchorage 2 Tom Brady passes incomplete to Roddy White.
4th Q 6:35 2nd and goal Anchorage 2 Tom Brady passes complete to Torrey Smith for a gain of 1 yards.
4th Q 6:12 3rd and goal Anchorage 1 Tom Brady passes, batted at the line of scrimage incomplete.
4th Q 6:05 4th and goal Anchorage 1 Tom Brady sacked by J.J. Watt for a loss of -8 yards. Turned over on downs
Anchorage 24, Denver 9

^^Classic sandbox moment right here

In the end, it doesn't matter.

Because even IF I score there, no WAY do I have another TD AND a 2-pt conversion in me.

I'm convinced you did something awful, like play JJ Watt at NT and it turned out to be rape factor 9.

Either that, or me altering some of the formations I used this time around had disastrous results.

lostcause 08-15-2013 10:12 PM

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Hammock Parties 08-15-2013 10:19 PM

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rageeumr 08-15-2013 10:48 PM

And just to rub salt in the wound, I get an email that lineups are available for the conference championship game that I'm not playing in.

:shake:

lostcause 08-15-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 9889184)
And just to rub salt in the wound, I get an email that lineups are available for the conference championship game that I'm not playing in.

:shake:

You and Clay both...

cdcox 08-15-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 9889184)
And just to rub salt in the wound, I get an email that lineups are available for the conference championship game that I'm not playing in.

:shake:

Sorry-- it's not supposed to do that. I'm really slammed at work and haven't had time to debug the emailer.

cdcox 08-15-2013 10:59 PM

BTW, in case you have email notification turned off, winners sim on Saturday.

Fansy the Famous Bard 08-16-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9889213)
BTW, in case you have email notification turned off, winners sim on Saturday.

the WINNERS!!! meaning not Denver.

... just sayin.

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 10:23 AM

Sure Alex. Suck in real life. Awesome in Sandbox.

SURE THING MAN

lostcause 08-17-2013 08:09 PM

It's quiet in here tonight....

cdcox 08-17-2013 08:46 PM

Just about to run them now.

cdcox 08-17-2013 08:57 PM

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 08:59 PM

9 and ****ing 7. LMAO

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 09:00 PM

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 09:07 PM

Oh sure. League 2 Tom Brady gets into the championship.

lostcause 08-17-2013 09:10 PM

Who's heart stop when this happened?

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 08-17-2013 09:15 PM

If Alex Smith beats Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning in the same postseason, serious software upgrades are needed.

brorth 08-17-2013 09:24 PM

:Pinky:
Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9896077)
Who's heart stop when this happened?

Spoiler!


Rain Man 08-17-2013 09:29 PM

You gotta love good, close playoff games.

cdcox 08-17-2013 10:18 PM

Well, all I can say is that with two 9-7 teams battling in the Sandbox Bowl, everyone should be counting their lucky stars that the 6-10 Duluth Pillagers didn't make the playoffs. That team would have Pillaged everyone.

lostcause 08-17-2013 11:11 PM

59% pressure rate and 7 sacks?? Independence got Independenced...

cdcox 08-17-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9896318)
59% pressure rate and 7 sacks?? Independence got Independenced...

Yep. Pitt's pass rush made the difference.

lostcause 08-18-2013 12:19 AM

Clearwater, kudos to persevering through a disfunctional season all the way to our rematch; but it's nice to get that revenge this year! Good game, sir

brorth 08-18-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9896336)
Yep. Pitt's pass rush made the difference.

I don't know, take away one rush from Morris and he went 20 for 40. Manning threw for 175. Your D held me in check. Upon further review, I'd say that Pierre Garcon lost that game for you more than I went out and won it. Check this out:

4th Q 3:13 1st and 10 Independence 47 Matt Schaub (pressured) passes incomplete to Pierre Garcon.
4th Q 3:06 2nd and 10 Independence 47 Matt Schaub (pressured) passes incomplete to Martellus Bennett.
4th Q 2:59 3rd and 10 Independence 47 Matt Schaub passes incomplete to Pierre Garcon.
4th Q 2:52 4th and 10 Independence 47 Steve Weatherford punts 53 yards, touchback.
Pittsburgh 21, Independence 19
Pittsburgh
4th Q 2:40 1st and 10 Pittsburgh 20 Alfred Morris rushes for -3 yards. time out Independence
4th Q 2:32 2nd and 13 Pittsburgh 17 Peyton Manning passes incomplete to Golden Tate.
4th Q 2:25 3rd and 13 Pittsburgh 17 Peyton Manning sacked by Antonio D. Smith for a loss of -5 yards. time out Independence
4th Q 2:17 4th and 18 Pittsburgh 12 Brandon Fields punts 57 yards, punt downed with no return.
Pittsburgh 21, Independence 19
Independence
4th Q 2:05 1st and 10 Independence 32 Marcel Reece rushes for 5 yards. Two minute warning.
4th Q 1:57 2nd and 5 Independence 37 Matt Schaub passes incomplete to Pierre Garcon. PENALTY. Offensive Pass Interference on Pierre Garcon. -10 yards.
4th Q 1:49 2nd and 15 Independence 27 Matt Schaub sacked by Jared Allen for a loss of -6 yards.
4th Q 1:24 3rd and 21 Independence 21 Matt Schaub passes incomplete, dropped by Pierre Garcon.
4th Q 1:17 4th and 21 Independence 21 Matt Schaub passes incomplete to Marcel Reece.
Pittsburgh 21, Independence 19

brorth 08-18-2013 12:23 PM

Oh and Richard Sherman was worth every.

single.

dollar.

ChiefAshhole20 08-18-2013 04:01 PM

So what's next?

cdcox 08-18-2013 04:10 PM

Sandbox bowl on Monday night.

2012 rookie drart will start in a few days. I need to sort out the exact order of battle to make sure I have all the necessary code in place.

DJ's left nut 08-19-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9896384)
Clearwater, kudos to persevering through a disfunctional season all the way to our rematch; but it's nice to get that revenge this year! Good game, sir

Tip o' the cap, sir.

Just ran out of gas. By the end of the year I couldn't run a 2-TE set and had Vandenbosch as my backup DT. I sacrificed too much depth (like the Dressen trade and Pouha trades) to get higher end players and it ended up burning me in the end.

I had hoped to make some adjustments on Sunday but I went to Chicago for the Cards/Cubs series. Unbenknownst to me, expensive ass downtown hotels like the Michigan Ave. Hilton don't have free WiFi. ****ers.

Oh well, it wouldn't have likely made a difference. I was desperately hoping for a balanced gameplan and after a key turnover and a couple of stalled drives, you busted out to a big lead and I had to scrap the run. That pretty much killed me against your D-Line.

And when you're kicking FGs while the other guy is scoring TDs, you're going to lose every time. Too many stalled drives in your territory and too much settling for FGs.

I'll be pulling for you and Alex - finish this thing for the Lunar Conference.

lostcause 08-19-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9898627)

I'll be pulling for you and Alex - finish this thing for the Lunar Conference.

Oh, trust me. The goal is keep that trophy here in the Lunar.

The question is how well we deal with Alfred "Darren 'Jesus' Sproles" Morris.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9899671)
The question is how well we deal with Alfred "Darren 'Jesus' Sproles" Morris.

Just replicate your gameplan from the divisional round you little jerk.

lostcause 08-19-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899687)
Just replicate your gameplan from the divisional round you little jerk.

Well, Pittsburgh has a qb capable of winning playoff games, so I might have to dial up the blitz package a bit more to get Peyton out of his rhythm.

lostcause 08-19-2013 08:41 PM

There's Haloti out there before kick off doing his version of the Ray Lewis dance. Getting the team fired up! It's a shame he missed the playoffs because of those sore knees.

lostcause 08-19-2013 08:58 PM

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 09:01 PM

Wow. A fitting end to the season. Great game.

**** you, Alex D. Smith. :D

Looks like Big Al is the MVP.

lostcause 08-19-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9900429)
Wow. A fitting end to the season. Great game.

**** you, Alex D. Smith. :D

Looks like Big Al is the MVP.

Hey, he showed up on that final drive of the 4th, like a BOSS!

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9900439)
Hey, he showed up on that final drive of the 4th, like a BOSS!

I was about ready to post this. I guess you'll have to enjoy it ironically.

http://i.imgur.com/UXw26Dw.jpg

lostcause 08-19-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9900447)
I was about ready to post this. I guess you'll have to enjoy it ironically.

http://i.imgur.com/UXw26Dw.jpg

:thumb:

Thanks for thinking about us, Clay!

cdcox 08-19-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9900419)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 09:33 PM

So when is the draft? :D

Can we get some time to make trades for draft picks before we start?

cdcox 08-19-2013 09:40 PM

So players that are on one year contracts become free agents. And you get to sign two of them to long term contracts at standard rates, without them going on the FA market. I haven't written the code for doing these tasks.

Do we want to do this before the draft or afterwards?

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 09:41 PM

Before.

TambaBerry 08-19-2013 09:44 PM

Before so we know who is available in free agency

cdcox 08-19-2013 09:49 PM

Yeah, that's what I thought. Need to write a little code.

Rain Man and I also need to finalize the tax rate on carry over funds and the funds allotment for this year.

allen_kcCard 08-20-2013 08:50 AM

Any way we cal also get the feeds exposed that show trades from last season, or just picks that each team has in general? I can't remember for sure how many extra picks I picked up, and that will go a long way in both FAs I try to target, and trades.

brorth 08-20-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9900429)
Wow. A fitting end to the season. Great game.

**** you, Alex D. Smith. :D

Looks like Big Al is the MVP.

(Cue John Facenda voice over)
"Big Al Morris, in the playoffs, carried the ball 100 more times for 716 yards and 10 Touchdowns."

I rode that man like a camel at the zoo.

Oh, and Alex D. Smith fumbled five times that game. :shake:

lostcause 08-20-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brorth (Post 9901325)
(Cue John Facenda voice over)
"Big Al Morris, in the playoffs, carried the ball 100 more times for 716 yards and 10 Touchdowns."

I rode that man like a camel at the zoo.

Oh, and Alex D. Smith fumbled five times that game. :shake:

Alex only fumbled twice!

(And one of those was really a bad snap from Pouncey if you review the tape!)

Rain Man 08-21-2013 11:17 AM

Congrats to Pittsburgh on the victory and withstanding that wicked comeback at the end. This was another game played in the rain based on the number of fumbles.

allen_kcCard 08-23-2013 01:24 PM

When are we looking at kicking off 2013? I've been watching, but don't want to end up being gone for a few days and suddenly things are moving without me.

brorth 08-23-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9903954)
Congrats to Pittsburgh on the victory and withstanding that wicked comeback at the end. This was another game played in the rain based on the number of fumbles.

Thank you, Sir.
1/3 of my FA dollars on Richard Sherman sure seems worth it.
I should call the Clarks and let them know it's totally worth it to mortgage the future for one player.
Oh, and please make sure the engraver pronounces it right when he says "Tacos" in his head, Richard Sherman would want it that way.
Thanks!

Rain Man 08-23-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 9908715)
When are we looking at kicking off 2013? I've been watching, but don't want to end up being gone for a few days and suddenly things are moving without me.

Eastern Regional Headquarters (cdcox) is checking out the system and loading up the draft stuff. I imagine we'll start the draft in the next week or so unless there's a problem. Keep watching, because an announcement is imminent.

cdcox 08-23-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9908937)
Eastern Regional Headquarters (cdcox) is moving into a new building at work, getting the semester started, continuing to fall impossibly behind at work, and eating carrot cake. I imagine we'll start the draft in the next week or so if he manages to scrape together a few hours to write some code. Keep watching, because an announcement is lingering in the shadows of uncertainty. If you have your email notifications turned on, you'll hear that way, too.

FYP

Fansy the Famous Bard 08-27-2013 07:56 AM

where we at fellas? :)

Rain Man 08-27-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9918347)
where we at fellas? :)

Gettin' close. Send your scouts out and be looking at those rookies in the meantime.

Fansy the Famous Bard 08-27-2013 02:22 PM

wait, we're allowed to have scouts?


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