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I don't generally believe in "sending a message", nor do I usually believe that some players might "not care" or "not try hard enough". This situation is pretty simple and cut and dried for me. I'm sure Moose is upset, worried, and trying as hard as he can, but he's killing us right now.

He looks so bad that I also don't think he has to face MLB pitching, it looks like AAA pitching could be enough of a challenge for him. Maybe he'll figure it out and maybe he needs time to rediscover his swing, but at this point he needs to do that in games that don't count.

If he can OPS over .900 in Omaha for a full month, then we can talk about his return, if that ever happens.

I'd have to listen again, but I'm pretty sure that Jayson Stark said (on 810 earlier today) that Moose is 3-53 against last pitch fastballs.

That is ****ing amazingly bad.

ChiefsCountry

05-13-2014 12:12 PM

Moose is one strange case that is for sure. When he does seem to get a hit its either a homer or double. He has 16 hits on the year, yet 14 RBIs - which is tied with Billy and more than Salvy and he still leads the team in home runs.

alnorth

05-13-2014 12:14 PM

I'm also comfortable with the idea that Moose is probably our best defensive option, I don't want to completely dismiss his defense, but he's not THAT good.

The difference between his runs saved and Gio/Valencia/whoever's runs saved is probably a lot less than the difference in runs created simply because Moose is so incredibly awful at the plate right now.

ChiefsCountry

05-13-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10627459)

I believe Valencia is right at 0.0 and Moose is .3 on defense WAR.

gblowfish

05-13-2014 12:46 PM

Only Royals fans would sit around and try to see how many ways they can quantify the deepness and profoundness of how bad one of their players sucks.

Other organizations just bench the guy, send him down or cut him, and get over it. But we're different. It's a process.

Karen Kornacki will probably ask Ned "Does Moose have a wife and children? How will they survive his demotion? Don't you feel bad about taking food out of the mouths of innocent babies???"

Prison Bitch

05-13-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10627432)

People are missing the point if they think demoting Moose is either a kick in the ass, or to light a fire under him. It's neither. It's nothing more than a simple roster move. It's not personal - he simply isn't performing. What he does down in Omaha is irrelevant because he does not belong up in MLB right now.

Mellinger argues today that Hosmer & Moose are so vital to the franchise that "This thing won't work" if they don't play well. That's bunk. The team could easily hide Moose if Billy & Alex and Sal were all hitting. Since they aren't, Moose can't be hidden any longer.

ChiefsCountry

05-13-2014 01:17 PM

Moose just can't get singles. That is the problem. His doubles and home run rate is pretty much at the same level in 2012. Just can't get singles, which is pretty mind blowing actually and you would think would be the easiest to correct.

BWillie

05-13-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10627333)

What's the deal with Jimmy Paredes? He's playing 3rd in Omaha. He's a switch hitter. He's batting .317 against righties and .294 against lefties. Couldn't the Royals platoon him and Valencia. Paredes against righties, Valencia against lefties? That would replace Moose's left handed bat if he's sent down.

Duncan, would love to hear your take?

Not sure if he's the answer, sure he can be a utility guy, but I'd rather give Gio a shot. At least you have a chance of finding an everyday player out there. Peredes has Zero walks this year at AAA, none. 21 K's in 77 Abs. Sure he's batting around .300, but probably pretty easy for MLB pitching to exploit.

siberian khatru

05-13-2014 01:36 PM

Infante on DL, Ciriaco up

siberian khatru

05-13-2014 01:37 PM

Probably right move putting Infante on DL, but that doesn't preclude also sending Moose down.

Oh, well, give him another 25 ABs or so to prove all the haters wrong, right Dayton?

BWillie

05-13-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10627664)

Infante on DL, Ciriaco up

God damn it.

Dartgod

05-13-2014 01:59 PM

I thought they needed to clear roster space for another reliever?

BlackHelicopters

05-13-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10627664)

Infante on DL, Ciriaco up

Damn

gblowfish

05-13-2014 03:09 PM

They must have a bunch of Moose antlers they want to give away in June....

Deberg_1990

05-13-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10627671)

Probably right move putting Infante on DL, but that doesn't preclude also sending Moose down.

Oh, well, give him another 25 ABs or so to prove all the haters wrong, right Dayton?

IM sure the goal posts have moved again.....

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