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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
You conveniently missed the liberal SF Chronical using the same stats. You also fail to acknowlege the Department of Justice. You only have one one persons opinion your running your program off of and that makes everything else BS? Is it even possible for you to be anymore bias?
I am done with the gun thing with you at this point it is a waste of my time. Unless you want to discuss your endorsement of run and snitch policy when a student is assaulted without bringing up that ridiculous pipe bomb story again or want to address your hypocrytical stance on not wanting the church to promote their moral agenda in schools but you see no problem having them pushing yours I think were done.
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I'm sorry, I see a big difference between acceptance of people (acknowledging that there are difference and being ok with that) and instilling that in children (which will go a long way towards avoiding ignorant hate crimes), and the teachings of myopic zealots who claim to be advocating the 'love' of the good book, but in reality are spreading hate.
You know this as well as I do..
You say "Run and Snitch" because you want to place the policy in the pejorative, derailing it before a debate can ever take place. How is this different from someone in the 60's saying that the Civil Rights Act is the N*gger love act?? The answer is that there is no difference.
Here is a question for you: Your kid is punched by someone at school. In the past he could defend himself, and if he did, he'd probably serve some ISS (as was the case in my school). On the contrary, your kid is punched, and his assailant is gone for the year. Don't you think that this policy would go a long way towards abating school violence. If kids know they are going to essentially flunk if they start a fight, you can damn sure know that they aren't going to be starting shit. Don't be naive. Furthermore, how often are kids unsupervised at school? I find it hard to believe that there isn't an authority figure within a few seconds, but maybe I am just being naive. Furthermore, if it worries you that much, teach your kid effective methods on how to block punches. Then if someone tries to punch him, he can still defend himself without harming the other person. Conflict avoided. But I'm sure that this never crossed your mind, since you automatically assume that violence is the only resolution to any conflict.
Just because the SF Chronicle used the stats, that doesn't mean they are correct. How do I know the reporter wasn't just being lazy and went to the first stats he could find? Maybe his editor is a gun nut. Am I suddenly the harbinger for all liberal outlets of media?? Some of them are woefully wrong. Quite often, liberal media outlets make stupid decisions--The CBS Memo is probably a prime example of that very case. Am I saying that all those who espouse the liberal perspective are inherently inerrant?? No, but that is how you wish to categorize me so that your vantage point seems more reasonable. You are attempting to take the reporting of one paper (the Chronicle) to undermine the efforts of a thoroughly researched, and peer-edited study that clearly refutes and negates the major crutch of your argument. It doesn't work that way. You deride Michael Moore for playing fast and loose with facts--where is your sense of outrage at Kleck's preposterous assertions??
Quit acting like a kneejerk talking head, it doesn't suit you. Hell, it doesn't even suit a pit bull.