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Tribal Warfare 05-27-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8642011)
The ABC and NBC crowds both have a pool of 3 players. Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi. The crowd pulling for Stanzi or Quinn have been labeled as ABC'ers. The crowed pulling against Quinn or Stanzi would be NBC'ers. There are several here.

what if a group is pulling for Stanzi, but is against the Cassel/Quinn option.

bishop_74 05-27-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8641876)
People have already addressed these posts, but the fact is, by moving the chains, Orton allowed the defense to win games by allowing them to rest.

That is HUGE in giving the defense an opportunity to help us win games. If I remember correctly the defense started to fall apart in the 4th quarter for most of the Cassell games last year.

BigMeatballDave 05-27-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8642030)
I'm pulling for Cassel to die in a fire.

:thumb:

RealSNR 05-27-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8642051)
:thumb:

I'm Thising your This of a FYP

Coogs 05-27-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8642034)
what if a group is pulling for Stanzi, but is against the Cassel/Quinn option.

I think if you are for Stanzi, you are an ABC'er. That's the camp I am in.

RealSNR 05-27-2012 05:46 PM

Do we still have any CBSers?

Cassel Butt Sexers?

BigMeatballDave 05-27-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8642085)
Do we still have any CBSers?

Cassel Butt Sexers?

Pawnsmoker

Pasta Little Brioni 05-27-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8642085)
Do we still have any CBSers?

Cassel Butt Sexers?

No, but we have a Twiggy for Thiggy and a Ball Dropper for Copper though.

-King- 05-27-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8641887)
Do you want Quinn or Stanzi to start ahead of Cassel?

If they are better, of course. But I have no reason to think they are.

-King- 05-27-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8641876)
People have already addressed these posts, but the fact is, by moving the chains, Orton allowed the defense to win games by allowing them to rest.

The defense wasn't any different when Orton was there and when he wasn't. It's not like they suddenly started playing well when Orton started playing. They were playing well well before Orton came in.




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Orton hasn't had the benefit of an effective running game to take the pressure in the red zone to produce.

With Charles and Hillis producing on the ground for the Chiefs this season, Cassel could easily have another meidocre season similar to 2010, wwhich would earn him at least 2 more years with Pioli in charge.
I'll take that chance over Orton coming in and getting 3 years to prove himself.

It's obvious that patience is wearing thin with Cassel. It's obvious that Pioli knows that now. So yeah, if we're going to have a mediocre QB, I'd rather have Cassel because he'll be cut sooner. With Orton, he'd be given 3 years.


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Oh, and using the single flea flicker play in one game to come up with Ortion's passing yards per game average is the most dishonest argument I have ever seen on this site.
I didn't do the math. I didn't even remember that play when I copied the stats from PFR. Hell, before this post, I was thinking that PFR had simply made a mistake with their calculations.

milkman 05-27-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8642118)
The defense wasn't any different when Orton was there and when he wasn't. It's not like they suddenly started playing well when Orton started playing. They were playing well well before Orton came in.

In the first 11 games, the defense often played well in the first half, but gave up a ton of points in the second half of games on a fairly consistent basis.

How many times in the first half of the season did the Chiefs get into the mid to late second quarter, or even the third quarter in one game, if I remember correctly, before they even achieved thier first first down.

The defense wore down in those games, and it showed.
Especially against the Bills, the Lions, and the Patriots.

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I'll take that chance over Orton coming in and getting 3 years to prove himself.

It's obvious that patience is wearing thin with Cassel. It's obvious that Pioli knows that now. So yeah, if we're going to have a mediocre QB, I'd rather have Cassel because he'll be cut sooner. With Orton, he'd be given 3 years.
I highly doubt that holds true for Orton, but that's an argument for another day.

However, if Cassel hs another season in 2012 like he did in 2010, there is no argument.

Pioli can point to those numbers and tell everyone that Cassel showed that he's a good QB, just as he has pointed to 2010 to support his claim that Cassel is a good QB.


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I didn't do the math. I didn't even remember that play when I copied the stats from PFR. Hell, before this post, I was thinking that PFR had simply made a mistake with their calculations.
Okay, but don't let it happen again.(insert smiley)

Mr_Tomahawk 05-27-2012 08:48 PM

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Mr_Tomahawk 05-27-2012 09:16 PM

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007 05-27-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8642631)

Quinn has this look of "Why the **** should I listen to your sorry ass?"

One thing is certain, Quinn looks a hell of lot more like a QB than Cassel ever did. Not that that amounts to squat.

Coogs 05-27-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8642118)
I didn't do the math. I didn't even remember that play when I copied the stats from PFR. Hell, before this post, I was thinking that PFR had simply made a mistake with their calculations.

Didn't think my post was legit, huh?


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