He's going to be arrogant with his demands and everyone knows that going in, I'm only down for it if he goes dirt cheap in pursuit of a ring... otherwise he can kick rocks

This is what I really just don't get at all.

Why on Earth would you pay top dawg money for a WR that hasn't played a game in over a year? you have no idea whether he can play a single down right now.

I mean, when I buy a truck, and up until last year i bought them all used. All 5 of them. And one thing for sure, I drive the ****ing thing first before I even think about wanting to buy it. I am not dropping actual money on a daily truck without knowing it will start, run down the street, go down the highway for a piece, up a hill, down a dirt road. Then I think about whether I'm buying.

And for certain I'm not buying a truck from the former owner when he tells me, "hey, the tranny went bad on it two years ago, but I had it repaired, and it should drive fine. I personally haven't taken it out for an actual drive, just up and down the driveway, but I'm pretty sure it'll go down the road okay."

Dhop has been largely healthy outside of what? Two injuries? Not the same injury twice (seems i know a WR that did exactly that?), but two different injuries? So, I know DHop will be available week 1. I'm at least 90% certain of it. And I saw him play at a high level just a couple months ago.

Will OBJ? Has anyone seen him even run full speed in over a year? Run a route? Jump? And the fool wants like $20M just so someone can find out if he might be able to play?

Nope. I'm all the way out on that.

Well, yeah. We obviously can't throw a Brinks truck at him. That'd be stupid. Not even feasible, i think.

I don't know what he'll demand. i saw the look in his eyes back in week 14-15?

He is all the way frustrated with Murray and/or losing. It's really the only reason I think the whole idea of him coming to KC has any wheels at all. He's pretty smart. he knows his window has shrunk to just a few years before he noticeably declines. If he's going to get a Ring, it has to be in the next 3- 4 years. That's the crossroads, and he knows it. Go after a Ring right now, or collect the money and teach young/unpolished QBs how to play the game. Those are his options.

i think (and no I have no actual evidence other than what i saw in his eyes after that game) he's tired of playing nursemaid to ungrateful/under-achieving QBs/teams and wants to start winning again, maybe chase a ring.

NFL writers repeating themselves!

ROFL It gets better.

Randy Moss. :facepalm:

Any way, so because Randy Moss, a generational talent was traded to the Patriots when he was 30 means trading for DHop is...?

For giggles on the HOFm #'s from earlier.

Randy Moss - 150.12 . Just a mere 2nd all time for WR's.
DeAndre Hopkins - 59.84 . A close 50 spots behind Randy.

I think Easy 6 was talking about demands other than money. Tyreek was demanding the ball too much. Pretty good chance Hopkins has a similar mentality. Big name receivers are not known for humility.

No one but you brought up anything of him being in the HOF in 6-10 years. he better get choppin, he has a ways to go.

It doesn't matter any way. DHop is not going to be here next year, or any year after that. So considering that, I highly doubt he even sniffs the HOF process in 2 decades at least.

Are they statistical outliers or a trend line? I'm leaning toward the latter while you seem to suggest the former.

Lolz, not sure why you're stuck on this HOF thing. not even the point of the thread. Not even close to the points I've been making in this thread.

But if he plays another 5 years, he probably gets in. That'd get him to about 15,800 yds, 110 TDs . . . Whether he's a 1st ballot guy, idk, but five more years of just average of his last five, and he's probably in at some point.

It would be unprecedented to continue to have drafts like that.

Are they just the outlier?

Have Bert's drafts gotten better or worse over time?

The more you weigh this those, I don’t think it gets done. His age alone and what he would bring isn’t really what they’ve looked for at wr

So you’re of the opinion that they’re going to continue to churn 4-6/7 starters, not just roster additions but starters, out of every draft?

Even the best drafting teams don't hit at 80% it's an untenable number. We will have some busts and bad picks like everyone else.

Hmm. Anything is possible. I just haven't seen the 'diva' in him that needs to catch every ball. He doesn't even appear to like being famous or the center of attention. He likes to show off, but what top player doesn't.

I've seen him get ticked off when the play goes badly and when they don't win. I think he'd be happy to win consistently.

But who knows? I'm not in his inner circle, so i can't say with any surety.