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KChiefs1 06-27-2016 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12292298)
He and Kacie split up?



That's the word on the streets.


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KChiefs1 06-27-2016 06:26 PM

Cool photo.
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BigCatDaddy 06-27-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12292544)

If he leaves it won't be because of a boring club house.

siberian khatru 06-27-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12292590)
Cool photo.
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Jack and Whitey. Cool. I don't think I've ever seen that photo before.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-27-2016 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12292298)
He and Kacie split up?

Kacie probably left him for fellow Nova product Ryan Arcidiacono because his title was more recent than Hosmer's.

Jersey chasing chick.

C3HIEF3S 06-27-2016 11:07 PM

I have 4 letters: _ _ _ _

You get one picture from tonight's game that describes those 4 letters:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheFakeNed">@TheFakeNed</a> at least she&#39;s winning solitaire. . . <a href="https://t.co/ggwAnDZTbk">pic.twitter.com/ggwAnDZTbk</a></p>&mdash; saknorton (@saknorton) <a href="https://twitter.com/saknorton/status/747602751257993216">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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TomBarndtsTwin 06-27-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12293051)
I have 4 letters: _ _ _ _

You get one picture from tonight's game that describes those 4 letters:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheFakeNed">@TheFakeNed</a> at least she&#39;s winning solitaire. . . <a href="https://t.co/ggwAnDZTbk">pic.twitter.com/ggwAnDZTbk</a></p>&mdash; saknorton (@saknorton) <a href="https://twitter.com/saknorton/status/747602751257993216">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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"Best Fans in Baseball"

:rolleyes:


(Sorry, B F I B)

Pasta Little Brioni 06-27-2016 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 12293059)
"Best Fans in Baseball"

:rolleyes:


(Sorry, B F I B)

You couldn't even show up to games 3 years ago ROFL

Chiefspants 06-27-2016 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12293072)
You couldn't even show up to games 3 years ago ROFL

It's easy to show up for a consistently winning product. You can trust me, I'm a fan of Jayhawk Basketball.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2016 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12293051)
I have 4 letters: _ _ _ _

You get one picture from tonight's game that describes those 4 letters:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheFakeNed">@TheFakeNed</a> at least she&#39;s winning solitaire. . . <a href="https://t.co/ggwAnDZTbk">pic.twitter.com/ggwAnDZTbk</a></p>&mdash; saknorton (@saknorton) <a href="https://twitter.com/saknorton/status/747602751257993216">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Welcome to having a winning team

Pasta Little Brioni 06-28-2016 12:13 AM

Bet the head turned douche posts here

WhawhaWhat 06-28-2016 05:43 AM

Kendrys Morales since May 29 (after a 4 game break) -

.353 BA, 1.015 OPS. 30 hits, 5 doubles, 5 HRs, 19 RBIs, 11 BBs.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-28-2016 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12293149)
Kendrys Morales since May 29 (after a 4 game break) -

.353 BA, 1.015 OPS. 30 hits, 5 doubles, 5 HRs, 19 RBIs, 11 BBs.

Remember when people wanted to cut him?

BigCatDaddy 06-28-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 12293205)
Remember when people wanted to cut him?

Stunning people didnt want to keep a DH hitting below the memdoza line 3 months into the season. Glad he got it going though.

Anyong Bluth 06-28-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12293212)
Stunning people didnt want to keep a DH hitting below the memdoza line 3 months into the season. Glad he got it going though.

Yeah, I was still more disappointed with about 1989 to 2012.

Pitt Gorilla 06-28-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12293212)
Stunning people didnt want to keep a DH hitting below the memdoza line 3 months into the season. Glad he got it going though.

Sitting is one thing. Cutting is another. It takes a special kind of shortsightedness to want to cut a player with Morales skill set when we need a player exactly like him.

KChiefs1 06-28-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12293149)
Kendrys Morales since May 29 (after a 4 game break) -

.353 BA, 1.015 OPS. 30 hits, 5 doubles, 5 HRs, 19 RBIs, 11 BBs.



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BigCatDaddy 06-28-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12293306)
Sitting is one thing. Cutting is another. It takes a special kind of shortsightedness to want to cut a player with Morales skill set when we need a player exactly like him.

Im sure it was bounced around the front office and that is why Valencias name keep coming up. A little insurance for 3rd and DH. Thankfully we can now use those resources for a more pressing need like a SP. He probably had until the AS break to figure it out and that seems fair.

C3HIEF3S 06-28-2016 12:24 PM

There goes those rumors:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm Jon Jay has a broken forearm. CT scan yesterday revealed it. Alex Dickerson recalled. <a href="https://twitter.com/DSmithShow">@DSmithShow</a> first!</p>&mdash; Dennis Lin (@sdutdennislin) <a href="https://twitter.com/sdutdennislin/status/747847761513504768">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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gblowfish 06-28-2016 12:31 PM

Not sure if this has been posted before or not. It's not the Gayest thing I've ever seen, but it's pretty damn Gay....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o0D4l3xcQPw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Halfcan 06-28-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12293600)
Not sure if this has been posted before or not. It's not the Gayest thing I've ever seen, but it's pretty damn Gay....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o0D4l3xcQPw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:shake:

WTF was that? Not cool...at all.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-28-2016 01:30 PM

get your powertowel!

C3HIEF3S 06-28-2016 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12293600)
Not sure if this has been posted before or not. It's not the Gayest thing I've ever seen, but it's pretty damn Gay....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o0D4l3xcQPw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Saw this earlier and my mind was baffled at the existence of this... thing.

-King- 06-28-2016 01:52 PM

Holy shit that's funny LMAO

C3HIEF3S 06-28-2016 02:58 PM

Check out this garbage fire:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> lineup vs. Wacha:<br><br>Merrifield LF<br>Escobar SS<br>Cain CF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Morales DH<br>Orlando RF<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Butera C<br>Ventura P</p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/747883142963302400">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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sedated 06-28-2016 03:05 PM

Is it just me or has Butera caught quite a few of Ventura's starts recently?

Guess it could have just been the time Salvy was out that skewed my memory.

Pitt Gorilla 06-28-2016 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12293774)
Check out this garbage fire:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> lineup vs. Wacha:<br><br>Merrifield LF<br>Escobar SS<br>Cain CF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Morales DH<br>Orlando RF<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Butera C<br>Ventura P</p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/status/747883142963302400">June 28, 2016</a></blockquote>
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What am I supposed to dislike about that?

C3HIEF3S 06-28-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12293780)
Is it just me or has Butera caught quite a few of Ventura's starts recently?

Guess it could have just been the time Salvy was out that skewed my memory.

From what I can see through the game logs, I do not believe that Butera has been Ventura's catcher. I believe May 22nd was the last time Drew caught for Yordano. Just odd that today is the day you give Sal an off-day, while also giving Gordo an off-day, while also moving Escobar up to 2nd in the order again. Makes no sense to me, personally. Which means we'll win by 5 runs tonight in all likelihood.

BigCatDaddy 06-28-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12293781)
What am I supposed to dislike about that?

Escobar back at the 2 kind of sucks. Id like see Orlando there.

Pitt Gorilla 06-28-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12293786)
Escobar back at the 2 kind of sucks. Id like see Orlando there.

Gotcha. I was really thinking about the actual order.

BigCatDaddy 06-28-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12293796)
Gotcha. I was really thinking about the actual order.

Yeah. It is a bit less in to intimidating without Sal and Gordon(even with his struggles) but Butera.and Colon arent automatic outs with no pop.

srvy 06-28-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12293600)
Not sure if this has been posted before or not. It's not the Gayest thing I've ever seen, but it's pretty damn Gay....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o0D4l3xcQPw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

He should sue.

Molitoth 06-28-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12293600)
Not sure if this has been posted before or not. It's not the Gayest thing I've ever seen, but it's pretty damn Gay....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o0D4l3xcQPw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I pictured the team watching this in clubhouse before the game and just started busting up laughing. This video is hilarious. ROFL

KChiefs1 06-28-2016 06:59 PM

*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***
 
What is this guys future with the team? Moose's replacement? RF?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...489d378b04.jpg

duncan_idaho 06-28-2016 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12294104)
What is this guys future with the team? Moose's replacement? RF?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...489d378b04.jpg



Either of those is possible.

His role might also be "trade bait..."


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Anyong Bluth 06-28-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12294104)
What is this guys future with the team? Moose's replacement? RF?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...489d378b04.jpg

That's the best photo they can find of him? Who knew DJ Qualls moonlights as a minor league player.

BigCatDaddy 06-28-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12294150)
Either of those is possible.

His role might also be "trade bait..."


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Trade bait for what? I don't think he gets moved for anything less than a pitcher with a few years of control right? Maybe a piece to get Gray?

Ervin Santana entering Shields done type territory? Numbers are down but still better than anybody but Duffy and Kennedy. Obviously it would be a Shields type trade with the Twins eating some of the contract.

KChiefs1 06-28-2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12294150)
Either of those is possible.

His role might also be "trade bait..."


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That could bring back what?
Sonny Gray? Drew Pomeranz? Julio Teheran?


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duncan_idaho 06-29-2016 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12294278)
That's the best photo they can find of him? Who knew DJ Qualls moonlights as a minor league player.


His teammates call him "Drago," so the Qualls reference made me literally laugh out loud this morning. Couldn't be two more opposite examples, could there?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12294341)
Trade bait for what? I don't think he gets moved for anything less than a pitcher with a few years of control right? Maybe a piece to get Gray?

Ervin Santana entering Shields done type territory? Numbers are down but still better than anybody but Duffy and Kennedy. Obviously it would be a Shields type trade with the Twins eating some of the contract.


I wouldn't move him for a piece in the Santana territory. He'd have to be part of a deal for someone more significant and likely with at least a few years of control.

I don't think KC can swim in the Gray waters. Too many other teams that cover him with more to give.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12294357)
That could bring back what?
Sonny Gray? Drew Pomeranz? Julio Teheran?


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Drew Pomeranz would be a pretty solid matchup. Think he has at least three years of control remaining.

Don't think KC has enough to get Teheran and honestly don't know if anyone does.

The Braves have gotten too used to trade raping the Diamondbacks to be a good trade partner for anyone...



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ChiTown 06-29-2016 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12294357)
That could bring back what?
Sonny Gray? Drew Pomeranz? Julio Teheran?


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It's going to take multiple prospects to haul one of those guys, but would be well worth it as ALL of them are under contract for the next several years. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE Teheran. At 25, He's signed through 2020 at an average salary of ~$9MM/YR 2017-2020. He's The good Ventura, who can log 200 Inn/YR and without the baggage. The Braves are said to want Major League ready prospects for Teheran.

WhawhaWhat 06-29-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12294484)
Don't think KC has enough to get Teheran and honestly don't know if anyone does.

The Braves have gotten too used to trade raping the Diamondbacks to be a good trade partner for anyone...

Never underestimate GMDM's boner for Braves players.

duncan_idaho 06-29-2016 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12294492)
It's going to take multiple prospects to haul one of those guys, but would be well worth it as ALL of them are under contract for the next several years. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE Teheran. At 25, He's signed through 2020 at an average salary of ~$9MM/YR 2017-2020. He's The good Ventura, who can log 200 Inn/YR and without the baggage. The Braves are said to want Major League ready prospects for Teheran.


I'm lukewarm on Teheran. He's a fastball-changeup guy, and RH guys with that pitch mix have a tougher time succeeding in the American League.

He's at the peak of his value and is outperforming his peripherals.

They want a huge, huge package for the guy. Don't think KC can meet it unless they include Mondesi, and they can't do that.


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tomahawk kid 06-29-2016 07:45 AM

I had a really hard time with last night's lineup.

I thought putting Butera out there with a shaky Ventura (coming off suspension) was a dumb move on Yost's part.

Maybe Salvy catching him wouldn't have made any difference, but I feel like it may have.

WhawhaWhat 06-29-2016 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 12294512)
I had a really hard time with last night's lineup.

I thought putting Butera out there with a shaky Ventura (coming off suspension) was a dumb move on Yost's part.

Maybe Salvy catching him wouldn't have made any difference, but I feel like it may have.

He's had both good and bad games with both so I don't think it matters that much who the catcher is.

Simply Red 06-29-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12294502)
I'm lukewarm on Teheran. He's a fastball-changeup guy, and RH guys with that pitch mix have a tougher time succeeding in the American League.

He's at the peak of his value and is outperforming his peripherals.

They want a huge, huge package for the guy. Don't think KC can meet it unless they include Mondesi, and they can't do that.


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He has big upside - but hasn't got much O support since playing here in Atlanta - He'd do well in KC - I'd all but guarantee you that.

duncan_idaho 06-29-2016 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12294542)
He has big upside - but hasn't got much O support since playing here in Atlanta - He'd do well in KC - I'd all but guarantee you that.



I think his upside has basically been reached. He's a good pitcher (and better than anyone on KC currently, though Duffy is in the same territory, potentially), but without a dynamite breaking pitch, I think he'd take a step back in the AL.

Either at, Teheran to KC is highly unlikely, IMO. His value is at a peak, and the Braves are going to demand a ton for him.

I don't think KC could get to that deal without moving Mondesi, and so think that's a complete nonstarter.


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ChiTown 06-29-2016 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12294522)
He's had both good and bad games with both so I don't think it matters that much who the catcher is.

I watched the game DVR'd. He's just not very tight with his mechanics right now, so it doesn't matter who's catching him, IMO. And truthfully, this has been an ongoing issue with him since the beginning of 2015. Between the mechanics and the game going on between his ears, there's just no consistency there. June is a great example on his wild inconsistencies. 3 great outings and 2 forgettable starts. There just aren't a lot of starts for Yo where he has an average outing: 6.0 innings, 2-3 ER's and more K's than BB's. He's approached being an all or nothing pitcher. The last time he's pitched with any consistency (good, not bad), was the Month of April. May was a train wreck and June was a roller coaster.

On a positive note, I will say that Yo, before last nights game, really looked like he had solved his issue with giving up an inordinate amount of walks. 6 total for the month of June is very good over 29 innings pitched.

Pitt Gorilla 06-29-2016 09:05 AM

I'm not sure I want to move a guy like Dozier, who could also really help the big league club.

Prison Bitch 06-29-2016 09:27 AM

6 back. Yuck

BigCatDaddy 06-29-2016 09:36 AM

I wonder if the Twins would move Brian Dozier. He is 29 now and would they be able to compete before he starts to decline or his contract is up? I dont know much about their system but they seem very far away.

duncan_idaho 06-29-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 12294576)
I'm not sure I want to move a guy like Dozier, who could also really help the big league club.



In a perfect world, you wouldn't have to, but the Royals' world - and rotation - are far from perfect.

Drew Pomeranz would be a nice fit for KC, as :
1) he has three years of control remaining after this year
2) aj Preller is a dumbass

Not sure what would need to go in that package in addition to Dozier, but that would be a win-win situation for both teams, potentially.

Only caution other than giving up 6.5 years of Dozier is that Pomeranz has been off-injured.


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ChiefsCountry 06-29-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12294555)
I watched the game DVR'd. He's just not very tight with his mechanics right now, so it doesn't matter who's catching him, IMO. And truthfully, this has been an ongoing issue with him since the beginning of 2015. Between the mechanics and the game going on between his ears, there's just no consistency there. June is a great example on his wild inconsistencies. 3 great outings and 2 forgettable starts. There just aren't a lot of starts for Yo where he has an average outing: 6.0 innings, 2-3 ER's and more K's than BB's. He's approached being an all or nothing pitcher. The last time he's pitched with any consistency (good, not bad), was the Month of April. May was a train wreck and June was a roller coaster.

On a positive note, I will say that Yo, before last nights game, really looked like he had solved his issue with giving up an inordinate amount of walks. 6 total for the month of June is very good over 29 innings pitched.

Pretty shitty strike zone last night and he got nickeled and dimed on the hits. It wasn't like his Baltimore start.

tk13 06-29-2016 11:57 AM

Watching Cody Reed get lit up by the Cubs this afternoon. Cincy is such a bandbox, it's really not a place to rush a young pitcher into. I wonder if any of the three former Royals will make it. No wonder the Reds never develop pitchers.

C3HIEF3S 06-29-2016 12:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain to the 15-day D.L. with a left hamstring strain. Brett Eibner&#39;s back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/748215058505752576">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Anyong Bluth 06-29-2016 12:04 PM

I seriously am iffy on being aggressive in the trade market this year probably because the bulk of the starting rotation has been bad or so inconsistent. Young has no business in the rotation.

I still think Duffy has it in him to give you a quality number 3 type of performance consistently. Can Edison return to high 2 rotation numbers? Will Ventura get back on track in the 2nd half of the season like last year?
Still have to see if Medlan is improved coming off rehab.

The SP has underwhelmed significantly to this point, but you have to see some clear evidence of a couple of these guys turning the corner if you want to justify making the move for an impact arm and trading away other talent in the farm system.

Last year, the acquisition of those couple pieces made total sense because it filled out what was needed and very recognizable.

This SP this year has been so weak, acquiring one top arm may not have the impact because the rest of the rotation has been shaky at best.

So, then you have to weigh if trading future talent is going to ultimately impact your franchise negatively for a rental who might net you 5 or 6 more wins but don't realistically improve your likelihood of a deep postseason.

Simply Red 06-29-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12294550)
I think his upside has basically been reached. He's a good pitcher (and better than anyone on KC currently, though Duffy is in the same territory, potentially), but without a dynamite breaking pitch, I think he'd take a step back in the AL.

Either at, Teheran to KC is highly unlikely, IMO. His value is at a peak, and the Braves are going to demand a ton for him.

I don't think KC could get to that deal without moving Mondesi, and so think that's a complete nonstarter.


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I see. I'd love to have him go to KC - but yeah - would be a lot.

Simply Red 06-29-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294813)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain to the 15-day D.L. with a left hamstring strain. Brett Eibner&#39;s back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/748215058505752576">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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duncan_idaho 06-29-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12294808)
Watching Cody Reed get lit up by the Cubs this afternoon. Cincy is such a bandbox, it's really not a place to rush a young pitcher into. I wonder if any of the three former Royals will make it. No wonder the Reds never develop pitchers.


Reed needs a third pitch, especially one to keep RH batters off balance. He's murder on lefties with that fastball/slider combo, but he needs more.

Not surprised to see the Cubs light him up. Lot of RH pop in that lineup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12294814)
I seriously am iffy on being aggressive in the trade market this year probably because the bulk of the starting rotation has been bad or so inconsistent. Young has no business in the rotation.

I still think Duffy has it in him to give you a quality number 3 type of performance consistently. Can Edison return to high 2 rotation numbers? Will Ventura get back on track in the 2nd half of the season like last year?
Still have to see if Medlan is improved coming off rehab.

The SP has underwhelmed significantly to this point, but you have to see some clear evidence of a couple of these guys turning the corner if you want to justify making the move for an impact arm and trading away other talent in the farm system.

Last year, the acquisition of those couple pieces made total sense because it filled out what was needed and very recognizable.

This SP this year has been so weak, acquiring one top arm may not have the impact because the rest of the rotation has been shaky at best.

So, then you have to weigh if trading future talent is going to ultimately impact your franchise negatively for a rental who might net you 5 or 6 more wins but don't realistically improve your likelihood of a deep postseason.


Good points all the way around. Duffy, Volquez, Kennedy and Ventura might be enough of Volquez bounces back and Duffy continues to be strong (I'd actually tick his current performance level up at least a notch), even if Kennedy continues to struggle on the road and Ventura remains enigmatic.

But that 5 spot is an issue.

I'm not in favor of giving up a ton for a rental and would be more in favor of a minor piece in a case like that (such as CC Sabathia). But if it's someone like Pomeranz who has several years of control remaining, I'm willing to consider trading from minor league positions of depth to improve the rotation.

With Moustakas, Cuthbert, and Dozier, KC may have enough depth there to make a move. Same with the OF, where Orlando, Eibner, Fuentes and Dyson lurk in reserve roles and make it easier to consider trading a Jorge Bonifacio.

Re: Cain... I have a buddy who has been bitching for two weeks about Cain dogging it to first.

I wish he had been bitching about it again last night... Tough injury to overcome.



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Simply Red 06-29-2016 12:24 PM

Definitely a tough injury to overcome - hoping for the best though - BTW what WOULD best-case be - like a month?

BigCatDaddy 06-29-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294813)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain to the 15-day D.L. with a left hamstring strain. Brett Eibner&#39;s back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/748215058505752576">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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He always looks like he is an eyelash away from a leg injury for some reason. That is why I dont see him back once he hits the market.

sedated 06-29-2016 12:35 PM

IMHO, with Orlando suddenly hitting like an all-star and Eibner showing that he may be able to contribute, Cain's injury isn't as bad as we would've expected at the beginning of the season, and especially what it would've been if Gordon was still out. That's 4 or 5 (with Dyson and Fuentes) that can fill the OF.

But hamstring on a guy like that could keep him out a loooong time. If he's out 2 weeks and re-injures it during a rehab assignment, that's looking at, what, 2 months for a realistic return?

BigCatDaddy 06-29-2016 01:08 PM

Beats seeing Young giving up bombs left and right....
http://kckingdom.com/2016/06/29/roya...er-bud-norris/

ChiTown 06-29-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12294891)
Beats seeing Young giving up bombs left and right....
http://kckingdom.com/2016/06/29/roya...er-bud-norris/

That just doesn't feel right. Bud Norris?

C3HIEF3S 06-29-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12294896)
That just doesn't feel right. Bud Norris?

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/insta...ut-bud-norris/

Cliffnotes:
He began utilizing a cutter around the beginning of June, along with completely abandoning his problematic changeup. Results have been good, putting him up with the elite pitchers for the month of June, though (obviously) through a very small sample size.

Literally anything would be able to improve KC's rotation at the moment.

ChiTown 06-29-2016 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294904)
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/insta...ut-bud-norris/

Cliffnotes:
He began utilizing a cutter around the beginning of June, along with completely abandoning his problematic changeup. Results have been good, though through a very small sample size.

Literally anything would be able to improve our rotation at the moment.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0K4jM...a7aU/giphy.gif

ChiefsCountry 06-29-2016 01:56 PM

We only have two more games with the Cardinals we don't need Bud Norris.

C3HIEF3S 06-29-2016 02:04 PM

Chris Young has given up 21 bombs (highest in all of baseball) and he isn't even a qualified starting pitcher statistically. Max Scherzer has given up the most HR's among qualified starters with 20.

Max has thrown 107.1 innings this year.
Chris Young has thrown 53.2.

ChiTown 06-29-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294941)
Chris Young has given up 21 bombs (highest in all of baseball) and he isn't even a qualified starting pitcher statistically. Max Scherzer has given up the most HR's among qualified starters with 20.

Max has thrown 107.1 innings this year.
Chris Young has thrown 53.2.

The question I have is: Who do the Royals have to give up for Bud Norris?

C3HIEF3S 06-29-2016 02:42 PM

Pay special attention to tonight's right fielder:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> vs RHP Martinez:<br>Escobar SS<br>Gordon LF<br>Morales RF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Perez C<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Dyson CF<br>Volquez P</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/748251194707976192">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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BigCatDaddy 06-29-2016 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294995)
Pay special attention to tonight's right fielder:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> vs RHP Martinez:<br>Escobar SS<br>Gordon LF<br>Morales RF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Perez C<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Dyson CF<br>Volquez P</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/748251194707976192">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Morales a right fielder huh?

ChiefsCountry 06-29-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294995)
Pay special attention to tonight's right fielder:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> vs RHP Martinez:<br>Escobar SS<br>Gordon LF<br>Morales RF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Perez C<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Dyson CF<br>Volquez P</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/748251194707976192">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Cuban Breakfast playing some right field tonight.

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-29-2016 02:49 PM

I understand trying to keep his bat in the lineup but... wow?

C3HIEF3S 06-29-2016 02:50 PM

Tonight is going to be the first time Morales has played the OF since 2008. I remember him working out there a little bit last year, but never thought it was seriously going to happen. I honestly can't even picture in my head what this is going to look like tonight. LMAO

siberian khatru 06-29-2016 03:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain has a Grade 1-plus hamstring strain. He should be back at the end of the 15-day DL stint.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/748262682021683200">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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gblowfish 06-29-2016 03:19 PM

"Cuban Breakfast" OK, now, that's funny right there....

gblowfish 06-29-2016 03:20 PM

I was thinking about this some today. What's the story with Vargas? I see him on the bench, traveling with the team. When is he due to start rehabbing?

mr. tegu 06-29-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12294995)
Pay special attention to tonight's right fielder:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> vs RHP Martinez:<br>Escobar SS<br>Gordon LF<br>Morales RF<br>Hosmer 1B<br>Perez C<br>Cuthbert 3B<br>Colon 2B<br>Dyson CF<br>Volquez P</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/748251194707976192">June 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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http://e.lvme.me/rovlta9.jpg

BigCatDaddy 06-29-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 12295050)
I was thinking about this some today. What's the story with Vargas? I see him on the bench, traveling with the team. When is he due to start rehabbing?

Wont be back until the start of next year.

sedated 06-29-2016 03:28 PM

So Hosmer was that bad in RF that we have to put Billy Butler out there?

ChiTown 06-29-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12295059)
So Hosmer was that bad in RF that we have to put Billy Butler out there?

No Whitt Merrifield? and Esky leading off.................:banghead:


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