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siberian khatru 05-24-2013 08:33 AM

Just a quick Frenchy rant:

It seems as if Moore and Yost believe Frenchy is a historically good player going through an aberrational slump, and each time he gets a hit it convinces them that he is about to turn the corner and return to his established level of performance. So they keep trotting him out there.

0-for-12, followed by a bloop single -- ah, gotta start him tomorrow because THIS MAY BE THE ONE TO GET HIM GOING. Followed by another 0-for-12, BUT THEN ANOTHER HIT! So he's now 2-for-24, but all they focus on are those two hits, not the 22 (ugly, unproductive) outs.

What's so maddening about that is they believe 2011 is his established level, when it's an outlier. Yet they cling to that despite voluminous evidence that their belief is wrong.

Furthermore, for guys who pooh-pooh statistical analysis and instead use their scout's eyes, they are still blinding themselves to reality. I could maybe, MAYBE buy Yost ignoring the numbers by saying "Yeah, but he's had lots of good swings, good at-bats, it's just a matter of time before they pay off." But the fact is HE HASN'T had good at-bats. He has perhaps the WORST at-bats on the team (well, next to Moose), swinging early and often in the count at bad stuff, and he can't even hit the good stuff anymore. If nothing else, in the past he could occasionally drive a fastball; he can't even do that anymore. He can't even hit lefties anymore. He doesn't walk, doesn't move runners over, doesn't score runners from third with a fly ball, doesn't work a pitcher, doesn't help turn the lineup over -- none of the "little things."

Yet he starts several times a week, even against righties. It's just maddening.

Prison Bitch 05-24-2013 08:48 AM

While everyone was busy worshipping Dayton for building the best farm system in 30 years, nobody stopped to notice that he wasn't adding any organizational depth at all. Where are the AAAA players you need to call on during the season? Dayton didn't worry about them, and so we're completely screwed when young players flop.

SPATCH 05-24-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9706022)
While everyone was busy worshipping Dayton for building the best farm system in 30 years, nobody stopped to notice that he wasn't adding any organizational depth at all. Where are the AAAA players you need to call on during the season? Dayton didn't worry about them, and so we're completely screwed when young players flop.

At this point Falu, Gio, and Lough should be playing everyday at 3B, 2B, and RF respectively.

Send Moose down and DFA Francouer.

This lineup needs a freaking jolt.

There has to be somebody on the FA scrap heap that we can get to play RF, or something. We just need some new blood out there.

gblowfish 05-24-2013 09:00 AM

When I read the paper this AM, GMDM was saying don't panic, this is the same team that went 17-10.

Don't
Panic.


My prediction for this team was they would win 75 games. That's three more than last year. Right now I'm wondering if they'll avoid losing 90. Last year they were 72-90, so if they win 73 games, the Royals will spin that as progress.

Moose has been a .180 or worse hitter. If you're not going to send him down, how can you NOT have him watch film of his at-bats, and work with him to figure out what is wrong? Tony Gwynn was a film room warrior.

Frenchy is just at the end of the road. He's not getting to balls in the outfield, he can't catch up with the fastball, he strikes out with guys on base, he's just used up. Yet, they'll keep him around all year because they have to pay him $7 million, so they'll just keep trotting him out there till the $7 million is spent and all the Frenchy Quarter T-Shirts are given away.

Hosmer IS NOT Ross Gload. OK?
That's an insult to Ross Gload.

Gload's career batting average was .281 with an OBP of .325.
Hosmer's career batting average is .263 with an OBP of .321.

Esky and Salvy has been worse on defense this year. Royals have gone over 30 innings without hitting a homer as a team.

The NL average slugging pct is higher than the Royals. And that's a league where the pitcher bats.

Time to hire those four new hitting coaches. Or should we hire eight? Or Sixteen? Thirty Two???

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-24-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9705988)
Just a quick Frenchy rant:

It seems as if Moore and Yost believe Frenchy is a historically good player going through an aberrational slump, and each time he gets a hit it convinces them that he is about to turn the corner and return to his established level of performance. So they keep trotting him out there.

0-for-12, followed by a bloop single -- ah, gotta start him tomorrow because THIS MAY BE THE ONE TO GET HIM GOING. Followed by another 0-for-12, BUT THEN ANOTHER HIT! So he's now 2-for-24, but all they focus on are those two hits, not the 22 (ugly, unproductive) outs.

What's so maddening about that is they believe 2011 is his established level, when it's an outlier. Yet they cling to that despite voluminous evidence that their belief is wrong.

Furthermore, for guys who pooh-pooh statistical analysis and instead use their scout's eyes, they are still blinding themselves to reality. I could maybe, MAYBE buy Yost ignoring the numbers by saying "Yeah, but he's had lots of good swings, good at-bats, it's just a matter of time before they pay off." But the fact is HE HASN'T had good at-bats. He has perhaps the WORST at-bats on the team (well, next to Moose), swinging early and often in the count at bad stuff, and he can't even hit the good stuff anymore. If nothing else, in the past he could occasionally drive a fastball; he can't even do that anymore. He can't even hit lefties anymore. He doesn't walk, doesn't move runners over, doesn't score runners from third with a fly ball, doesn't work a pitcher, doesn't help turn the lineup over -- none of the "little things."

Yet he starts several times a week, even against righties. It's just maddening.

Last night was the epitomy of the Frenchy era here. Tight game, late innings, leading off the inning, we need a good at bat. He sees 3 fastballs down the middle and looks like a fool on all 3 pitches. He walks back to the dugout and Ned pats him on the butt saying "good at bat"

Prison Bitch 05-24-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9706038)
Hosmer IS NOT Ross Gload. OK?
That's an insult to Ross Gload.

Gload's career batting average was .281 with an OBP of .325.
Hosmer's career batting average is .263 with an OBP of .321.

Quit stealing my material brah.

duncan_idaho 05-24-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9706030)
At this point Falu, Gio, and Lough should be playing everyday at 3B, 2B, and RF respectively.

Send Moose down and DFA Francouer.

This lineup needs a freaking jolt.

There has to be somebody on the FA scrap heap that we can get to play RF, or something. We just need some new blood out there.

Only part I disagree with is Falu.

If you're talking about a switch hitter at Omaha with position versatility who should be promoted to potentially add to the offense, I think you're talking about Seratelli rather than Falu.

Gio can play 3B.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-24-2013 09:12 AM

Falu has been able to play SS\3B\2B all at Omaha the past couple years. Whether he's a capable 3B glove or not I don't know, but he has certainly manned that position with regularity in the past.

P-90Rex 05-24-2013 09:32 AM

Preaching "Don't panic" is the most overused phrase in sports on a floundering team.

If a ship is taking on water, the captain says "remain calm, don't panic!" But then he tries to do something salvage the situation. This front office isn't trying to fix anything. Don't panic means don't make any irrational decisions. It doesn't mean watch the ship take on water and hope it turns into submarine!

Demoting Moose is not a panic move, it's a rational one.

WhawhaWhat 05-24-2013 09:46 AM

Danny Duffy is starting for the Naturals on Sunday. 30-day rehab assignment, then they have to option him or activate him.

duncan_idaho 05-24-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9706062)
Falu has been able to play SS\3B\2B all at Omaha the past couple years. Whether he's a capable 3B glove or not I don't know, but he has certainly manned that position with regularity in the past.

I'm not worried about his glove. In fact, I'm sure he'd be a better option defensively at 3B than either Gio or definitely Seratelli.

I just don't buy him contributing as much with the bat as either of those guys.

petegz28 05-24-2013 09:54 AM

Yeah, don't panic...we jus went from 7 games over .500 to 2 games under .500 in less than 3 weeks and against sub-.500 teams.

Nothing to worry about

SPATCH 05-24-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9706059)
Only part I disagree with is Falu.

If you're talking about a switch hitter at Omaha with position versatility who should be promoted to potentially add to the offense, I think you're talking about Seratelli rather than Falu.

Gio can play 3B.

Even better. We need to make some offensive minded adjustments ASAFP.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2013 10:31 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen: The Kansas City Royals Television Network Graphics Department:

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3A...graphic524.jpg

How many errors can you spot?

CaliforniaChief 05-24-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9706322)
Ladies and Gentlemen: The Kansas City Royals Television Network Graphics Department:

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3A...graphic524.jpg

How many errors can you spot?

OMG That's HORRIBLE. My son's 7th grade Power Point class is blushing.


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