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BWillie 08-22-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12381383)
The team is winning.


**** war.

Where did mondesi touch you?

We are going to love Mondesi, but hes just over matched at the plate. His pitch recognition is horrendous. And its supposed to be, hes barely 21 and has never really shown he has the hit tool over any decent sample in the minors. He will get there. But we are no longer a team with no shot. Mondesi will be the better otpion in a year and a half, but Colon and Whit are better options right NOW.

Colon has 247 career abs with a .340 obp and 2.0 WAR. Not bad, hes not going to amaze you but hes not scared of the moment and is the best option at 2B right noe imo

KChiefs1 08-22-2016 03:50 PM

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WhawhaWhat 08-22-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 12381422)
If this is true - and it sounds like it may be - you would think Oakland would designate Belly for assignment or put him on waivers.

cant see the guy sticking around....

A cheap move on Butler's part if this is true - who made him the clubhouse endorsement cop??

Susan Slusser, the A's beat writer, was on 810 as I was driving home and said they have friendly banter back and forth all the time in the clubhouse and on the field, she called it big brother, little brother type banter. Billy just went over the line this time.

sedated 08-22-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12381274)
He did make some major missteps. He first tried to make a run at contention during the Greinke years.

I still disagree. He traded those bullpen pieces because that was ALL he had, and had shown a knack for replacing them quickly. Yeah, I'm sure he learned from not being able to replace them as easily as he thought he could, but I still don't think GMDM had any hope or intention of trying to compete on the major league level. He knew there was too much work to do in the minors first.

KChiefs1 08-22-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12381187)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LHP Jason Vargas had his rehab assignment transferred to <a href="https://twitter.com/OMAStormChasers">@OMAStormChasers</a>. He will start tonight&#39;s 7:05 game vs. Nashville. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>— Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/767804136427364352">August 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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A healthy Vargas in September & October could get us to a 3rd straight World Series.




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C3HIEF3S 08-22-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12381398)
Billy Butler told Danny Valencia's equipment rep that he doesn't wear their cleats, not just told them but then said that Valencia NEVER wears their cleats. Valencia popped him for it. Don't **** with people's endorsement deals.

Seems like that is a pretty basic and common unwritten rule that Belly broke, is it not?

Chiefspants 08-22-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12381457)
I still disagree. He traded those bullpen pieces because that was ALL he had, and had shown a knack for replacing them quickly. Yeah, I'm sure he learned from not being able to replace them as easily as he thought he could, but I still don't think GMDM had any hope or intention of trying to compete on the major league level. He knew there was too much work to do in the minors first.

I think we might be whitewashing Moore's history a bit here. There was a lot of optimism after our strong finish in 2008. Believe it or not, many were stoked that not only did we avoid a 100 loss year, but a 90 loss year as well.

On paper, Zack Greinke was finally looking like an ace, Meche looked like a an anchor in a solid rotation, Kyle Davies (yes, that Davies) had a strong finish in 08 that made many believe he was turning the corner. There was hope that Brian Bannister was due for a bounceback year, and that Hoch would start flashing #1 stuff in his sophomore year.

Moore was hopeful that adding a leadoff hitter and a cleanup guy would bolster Billy Butler's production and give Alex Gordon the lineup protection he needed to finally breakout as a hitter. However, to bolster this lineup caused the Royals to depart with the strongest part of their 2008 team.

There was a definite excitement coming from the Royals FO after 2008. It was commonly said that if KC had gone 6-6 during an 0-12 stretch in May, the Royals would have finished with a .500 record.

Unfortunately, 2009 made it clear that Moore had a bad read on the talent of his team. He relied on no talent all grit guys like Yuni and Gload, pinned the offense in hitters and defenders not suited for the park like Guillen and Jacobs, and put his trust into "all faith" guys like Barnyard Trey, who proceeded to ruin Meche's career by leaving him out for 120 pitches a start. Moore originally defended this, questioning the science behind pitch counts and arguing it was more of a "feel thing." At the time, Moore didn't even seem to put a lot of stock into defense. Openly admitting that he "didn't understand" defensive analytics and put out a team that featured Billy/Jacobs at first, Guillen in left, Yuni at third, and Buck/Olivo at the plate. Even Alex Gordon was positioned at 3rd at the time, where he was never more than a mediocre defender.

Moore undeniably thought the Royals were in a position to compete in 2009. The leaps the team has made since illustrates his evolution as a GM, and there's no one I'd rather have at the lead of our organization.

In GMDM I trust.

Anyong Bluth 08-22-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12381383)
The team is winning.


**** war.

Where did mondesi touch you?

Low and inside.

KChiefs1 08-22-2016 04:47 PM

*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***
 
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mlb-t...-five-percent/


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Two years ago, the Royals came out of nowhere to make the World Series. Last year, that momentum carried over to viewers as Kansas City led MLB teams in local ratings. After winning the World Series last year, Kansas City is still watching a ton of baseball. Ratings-wise the two teams from Missouri boast the top two spots in baseball, per Forbes.

Ratings are particular to markets and don’t directly translate into raw viewer numbers, as the figures are based on the percentage of households in that market. Or, rephrased: just because a greater percentage of people are watching games in Kansas City, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh, that doesn’t necessarily mean more total people are watching than in other markets. The chart below shows the raw number of households, on average, that are watching each game on the local channel.





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nychief 08-22-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12381463)
A healthy Vargas in September & October could get us to a 3rd straight World Series.




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You do know who Jason Vargas is don't you?

Prison Bitch 08-22-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12381463)
A healthy Vargas in September & October could get us to a 3rd straight World Series.




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Think about how that sounds

KChiefs1 08-22-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12381612)
Think about how that sounds



How does Dillon Gee sound?





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KChiefs1 08-22-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12381557)
You do know who Jason Vargas is don't you?



Vargas > Gee Whiz




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duncan_idaho 08-22-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12381480)
I think we might be whitewashing Moore's history a bit here. There was a lot of optimism after our strong finish in 2008. Believe it or not, many were stoked that not only did we avoid a 100 loss year, but a 90 loss year as well.



On paper, Zack Greinke was finally looking like an ace, Meche looked like a an anchor in a solid rotation, Kyle Davies (yes, that Davies) had a strong finish in 08 that made many believe he was turning the corner. There was hope that Brian Bannister was due for a bounceback year, and that Hoch would start flashing #1 stuff in his sophomore year.



Moore was hopeful that adding a leadoff hitter and a cleanup guy would bolster Billy Butler's production and give Alex Gordon the lineup protection he needed to finally breakout as a hitter. However, to bolster this lineup caused the Royals to depart with the strongest part of their 2008 team.



There was a definite excitement coming from the Royals FO after 2008. It was commonly said that if KC had gone 6-6 during an 0-12 stretch in May, the Royals would have finished with a .500 record.



Unfortunately, 2009 made it clear that Moore had a bad read on the talent of his team. He relied on no talent all grit guys like Yuni and Gload, pinned the offense in hitters and defenders not suited for the park like Guillen and Jacobs, and put his trust into "all faith" guys like Barnyard Trey, who proceeded to ruin Meche's career by leaving him out for 120 pitches a start. Moore originally defended this, questioning the science behind pitch counts and arguing it was more of a "feel thing." At the time, Moore didn't even seem to put a lot of stock into defense. Openly admitting that he "didn't understand" defensive analytics and put out a team that featured Billy/Jacobs at first, Guillen in left, Yuni at third, and Buck/Olivo at the plate. Even Alex Gordon was positioned at 3rd at the time, where he was never more than a mediocre defender.



Moore undeniably thought the Royals were in a position to compete in 2009. The leaps the team has made since illustrates his evolution as a GM, and there's no one I'd rather have at the lead of our organization.



In GMDM I trust.


Would have been interesting to see what would have happened had that 2009 team not lost Coco Crisp. They were in contention until that point, but lack of depth killed them.

Hillman was also an abortion of a manager who ruined Moore's first really good scouting victory (Meche).


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KChiefs1 08-22-2016 07:06 PM

Chapman walks, charged to Vargas. Wendle doubles him in, charged to Vargas. 3-0 Sounds.

Vargas: 3 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K. 67 pitches.


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