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I was thinking more of a comparison of, say, Brad Johnson vs. Jim Kelly.

If I remember right, Brad Johnson was lucky enough to squeak one in there, and Jim Kelly because he was at the helm of a perennial AFC Championship powerhouse if I'm not mistaken, but never won one.

RealSNR

03-20-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9517481)

One thing this forum has in common with that day care center Chiefscrowd, is a copious amount of tears. Can you poor QB impoverished people look past your programming? You have some good players and send 6 to the Pro Bowl while skimming the bottom of the ocean like a whale turd all season. Then you got a true general of a QB in Alex Smith and some others. You have a GREAT coach! He's better than Harbaugh folks. You have to get into the Alex Smith story to come to the conclusions that better evaluators of talent than yourselves have come to. And Alex had steady improvement and downright moments of brilliance before Harbaugh came to the Niners. I'm not going to pour all that into this forum. You guys need to true up. Did you guys watch Smith last year? 2011? Prior years?

I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I'm expecting to see a controlled and disciplined offense, the shine of inspired losers turned winners, and yes, some hiccups as the whole top end is new. But be patient. I think it'll be good.

I am new to this forum. I am usually sarcastic and at times a bombastic individual. I am a fan. I hope the rules here don't require me to take off my shoes when I sign in, wash my hands after going to the bathroom or excuse myself for farting during conversation. But I don't threaten or get nasty and I figure this is all tongue in cheek and in good fun. I'm guessing most of you guys are 12 years old.

Go **** your dad

RealSNR

03-20-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9517493)

You take the better QB. Period. That's your best shot at winning a Super Bowl.

What you're doing now is using hindsight to make rash QB judgments. That's why you're spewing garbage like, "I would rather have Brad Johnson in the middle of his career than Jim Kelly as a rookie."

Hammock Parties

03-20-2013 11:56 PM

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Then you got a true general of a QB in Alex Smith and some others.

A true general?

A true general? LMAO

The only general on that SF team was Jim Harbaugh. Alex Smith couldn't get out of his own asshole's way on third down.

Exoter175

03-20-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9517513)

Um, I didn't say that at all lol.

What I'm asking is, if you had the choice between two versions of Alex Smith.

1. being a Jim Kelly type championship run where we're winning ~10 games a season, we're in the playoffs, nay, the AFC Championship or even super bowl, and statistically is he is a top 5 guy

or.

2. A mediocre string of seasons where we're close to .500, winning 8 or 9 games a season with a top 12-16ish statline, but ONE year of solid gold performance and a super bowl victory.

Which would you take?

I'm not saying these are the only options, nor that this is what will happen.

I'm simply curious, would the fanbase take 6 seasons of disappointing championship game losses and/or super bowl losses, or would they take 5 seasons of mediocre play, and one super bowl victory?

I'm inclined to believe the fanbase would be split close to 50/50 here. Some just want to know what it is like to root for a team to win the super bowl, some might want to know what it is like to just win, win, win, but never win the big one.

Exoter175

03-20-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9517516)

A true general?

A true general? LMAO

The only general on that SF team was Jim Harbaugh. Alex Smith couldn't get out of his own asshole's way on third down.

A true General. Like your Tom Brady's, Drew Brees', Peyton Mannings', Dan Marino's, etc.

RealSNR

03-21-2013 12:02 AM

I fail to see how the better QB wouldn't have the "gold" season you're talking about that wins us a Super Bowl.

You're not about to suggest that QBs mired in mediocrity who won Super Bowls like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer won it because they had a "solid gold performance," are you? Because neither of them had that kind of season in their respective runs.

Jonny Thunder

03-21-2013 12:04 AM

A comparison to RG3 was mentioned. He was at times flashy, but he has a bad brain and now he has a bad wheel because of it. He also has an erratic coach. Both of them are why they got beat by the Seahawks and ended their season at home. Rogers was right...the backyard brawler QB is a flash only. When they can't run their game is over. And being able to run doesn't translate into maturity or patience. Take a look at how Colin Kap looked against the Rams, the Seahawks and the Ravens. He was lost. So RG3 plus Shannihan = a serious injury and a season that almost went badly. I'd rather have Alex Smith and Andy Reid. Smart and smart. Only good comes from smart. Running wild will get you an ass kicking eventually. Running wild is not a long term plan.

And why look down the road 7 years? You can't. But this will be an improvement, you have to know it will. And I will bet that Alex drives the playbook with the team. He is a very cerebral dude who will help the Chiefs in more ways that the posters here are expecting.

This is going to be good. Can't wait.

RealSNR

03-21-2013 12:08 AM

I'll shove a shotgun up my ass and blow off the top of my head if Geno Smith in his rookie season runs half as much as RGIII did

Jonny Thunder

03-21-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9517516)

A true general?

A true general? LMAO

The only general on that SF team was Jim Harbaugh. Alex Smith couldn't get out of his own asshole's way on third down.

Harbaugh is not a general, he's a cheerleader. A general does not try weak tosses in the redzone at the 5 yard line first and goal when he had Delanie Walker and Frank Gore. The QB is the general. Alex Smith is a game manager remember? Twelve was generous.

Jonny Thunder

03-21-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9517525)

I'll shove a shotgun up my ass and blow off the top of my head if Geno Smith in his rookie season runs half as much as RGIII did

I believe that.

Ming the Merciless

03-21-2013 12:11 AM

Look Donny dunder, the only thing we need is a Qb that elevates the play of all on the field. Not one who requires all the players to carry his ass while he dinks n dunk's for 175 and one TD

DTLB58

03-21-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9517477)

The same as it sits with us now, except for one season removed.

But what happens if the season after that Alex goes all Tom Brady on everyone and suddenly he just clicks, like he has under Harbaugh?

Or say, heaven forbid, Alex is with us for 7 years, and in his 6th year, after 5 average seasons, showing a little upside and being a top 12-16 QB, we win a super bowl.

Do we all of a sudden come back to this thread and say "hey, we were all stupid for doubting reid's execution here".

Because in the long run, what are we after?

Do we want a top 5 QB, future hall of famer, and perennial playoff contending caliber QB, or do we want a guy who won us a super bowl?

I'd be reluctant to answer that myself, and I'd bet the fanbase was pretty close to a 50/50 split on it.

This is the same "What if" stuff we heard about Cassel for four seasons.

RealSNR

03-21-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonny Thunder (Post 9517527)

I believe that.

It's not going to happen. The RGIII comparison is made only in terms of a successful and electric rookie year. It has nothing to do with play style, because Geno is a completely different QB.