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Teicher: Johnson, Toribio and Lewis sit out Chiefs practice with injuries (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=263167)

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8880886)

was very gentle

Until the point
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8879950)

Wasn't it you who said something like "show me a linebacker who doesn't miss tackles?" Yes, it was you. If you really want to know the truth, Siler has one tackle that was more important and memorable than any of DJ's. It was a tackle that got them into the playoffs on a 4th and goal against Dallas. If you don't believe me, go ask their fans about it. Also, I could show you at least 100 DJ pics of the type you are showing me. I stuck it out and found gifs. You are a pussy who continues to have nothing.

This is just stupid. Why is Siler still in the league Jason? What would have ever convinced the Chiefs to sign the guy? Why hasn't anyone beat him out for a roster spot yet? How many years has he been in the league?

You can't use DJ's numbers from one year versus Siler's career numbers. It needs to be a career thing to be fair. The question is who tackles better. It's not about who is the better player. A guy that is a fundamentally sound player, will continue to tackle consistantly. That will show up in the missed tackle per attempt statistic. DJ has never been consistant. He's had two good seasons. Siler could never put up DJ's numbers but he is much more consistant. It's like I said earlier. It's why Siler plays special teams and DJ does not. It's why Berry plays special teams and Lewis does not.

Why did u post pics of missed tackles then if you are going to say that everyone misses, which is correct.

Look I understand what u r tring to say. My issue is misses per snap doesn't show it. What if siler is 3 for 5 over 100 snaps and dj is 12 for 15. DJ would have more misses but making tackles at a higher percentage.

If a hitter goes 3 for 10 with 5 k's and another 15 for 50 with 7 k's does that mean player A is better in the strikeout category?

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8878031)

The ability to get to the ball is one thing. The ability to field the ball is another.

The ability to get to the runner is one thing. The ability to tackle the runner is another.

You keep trying to equate them. They aren't the same.

That's true but errors per batter doesn't shiw it, nor does per snap which is the stat bob keeps using. If I saw missed tackle % I would see his point if it went against dj. Even though dj is better still, which bob has also said.

I think missed tackle % uses too many stats for this argument. The best example is missed tackles per attempt. Tackle % includes assists I think.

Attempts are attempts. Either you tackle or you don't.

In the end, Siler is a better tackler in my opinion.

I think we've talked this to death.

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8880891)

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Dear BlackBob,

I hate to be teh Spelling Nazi, but if you're going to continue to post your stupid, ****ing outlandish ideas about Siler and DMC you could at least learn how to spell the ****ing word "consistent".

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8882106)

That's fine then use tackles per attempt. Tackles per snap is not the same as that.

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8882154)

hahahaha

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8882154)

We have a winner..... and that is the worst post of all in this thread. It tells me quite a bit about a person who complains about other people's spelling on a message board. Who is really the idiot?

I have already admitted that smoking pot every day for ten years ruined my spelling. It's here somewhere and you can expect more of the same.:LOL:

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8882204)

That's fine then use tackles per attempt. Tackles per snap is not the same as that.

It doesn't really matter man. Check out this quote below. I try to think about it before I get to deep into stats.

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. "

Albert Einstein

Going after my heart with an einy quote eh? That's fine. My issue started with you saying check the "stat book" but never actually referenced or showed them. So that was my issue above all else. Not to mention if it wasn't all about stats you probably shouldn't ask for a stat book check. Finally, when arguing who misses more tackles I think missed tackle stats weigh a decent amount. I trust albert would agree.