And they've gotten considerably better in that area over conference play (which tells you where they started from). The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

You're going way too far here. He basically won the game against Oklahoma by himself 5 days ago down the stretch.

Tharpe isn't getting benched for guys like Mason and Frankamp. He's way too important to this team and is capable of much more than them offensively.

First off you didn't prove that. Second off who cares? We still lead the league. It's a problem you sunshine pumper

Why focus on the positive when you can nitpick the negative.

Its a road loss in a brutal conference. Prep for the dance. Still have 10 straight. Suck it up and move on, hopefully learn from it.

First half of B12: 14, 7, 24, 19, 16, 10, 14, 12 (116 turnovers, 14.5 a game)

Second half of B12: 13, 12, 11, 9, 11, 7, 11, 22 (96 turnovers, 12.25 a game).

I believe that should be sufficient to show the trend, though it should have been obvious to anybody that's watched this team play. The ISU and OSU road games are really driving the high total in each case. If you eliminate them, it becomes 13.7 and 10.6 in the respective halves.

I didn't say it wasn't, you trolling nitwit. The point was that they've improved in that area. And they have, regardless of the aberration today.

I know for Tharpe's struggles that Mason and Frankamp were just as shitty. I'm saying that LAST NIGHT Tharpe was putrid, and if he pulls this shit in a tournament game, we're ****ing done.

If we get a ravenous and super aggressive 15 seed and he pulls this shit, I think we're going to get embarrassed.

Idk how many times when are guys are driving and the other team drops there arms into our players arms stripping the ball. Now its not a foul every time but sometimes it is and we never get it.

2 games we should win remaining, hopefully take the big 12 tourney and we still likely end up a 1 seed playing in StL. The regions don't really seem to matter as much where we go.


You don't think they end up sending WSU to StL and not KU, do you?

If WSU wins the Valley Tournament, they will be the #1 seed in the Midwest region.

I'm just saying, I don't know that having to go to Memphis is really an advantage for us over Anaheim, Indy or New York. These guys have traveled all over the place already and should be able handle traveling to play.

Would be nice to see them make it to StL for the 2nd & 3rd round though.