2.5 freaking years.

This teams window is 2.5 freaking years.

We are say a 10 to 15% shot to win the WS as is. We trade Duffy and some prospects for Cueto. We probably increase our odds a negligible amt to say 20%. Is that 5% worth getting rid of Duffy? The answer: It is not

We've been over this, but you need a frontline guy. You're looking way too much at percentages and probabilities.

My probabilities say that a team with a bunch of guys pitching at a #3-4-5 level win World Series exactly 0% of the time. I'd agree Duffy and Ventura have the chance to be those guys. Will they do it this year? I don't know. When you have a chance to win it all, you don't want to blow it.

And I can understand why people would assume that an ace like Cueto would be a huge difference-maker in the playoffs. But the fact is that in the postseason, Cueto pitches a lot more like Kyle Davies than like an ace.

In his career in the postseason, Johnny Cueto has 0 wins, 2 losses, and an ERA of 5.19. In 3 starts he has pitched a total of 8 1/3 inning with 13 hits, 2 walks, and 3 strikeouts.

This is the post-season "ace" that the Chiefsplanet posters are clamoring for. If you want to say it's a small sample size, I'll agree with you. But it's pretty solid evidence that Johnny Cueto is simply not the sure thing that people think he is.

Johnny Cueto in the postseason would be just as big a gamble as Danny Duffy. The difference is that Duffy has pitched great since coming off of the disabled list, and we don't have to give up anything for him. We already have him.

How come we went to game 7 of the WS last year then? Shields was arguably our worst SP in the playoffs. I would say you arent looking ENOUGH at probabilities and odds. Thats what life is. A series of odds. Theres way more randomness in sports IMO than ppl realize

See my previous post. When has Cueto ever proven that he would be a frontline guy in the playoffs?

Because Ventura and Duffy pitched extremely well. Something they haven't done consistently this year.

Lmao. What a huge sample size to judge Cueto on! 2 games lol

Greinke was bad his first few playoff games and has been great in the postseason since joining the Dodgers

The A's traded a good young talent for a frontline guy last year.

How has that worked out?

Yet

Theyve barely had a chance to. People freaked out at Duffy because he had a rough 35 ip start or something ridiculous like that. Andrew McCutchen went like 150 ABs batting .200 this year, look where hes at now.

Wow Omar has just been amazing at 2B this year defensively

Semantics. This isn't an argument about what could happen or has happened in the past. This is about these two teams right now. In case no one has noticed Minnesota has been hot over their last 10 games. Too bad they lost ground in the standings over that time.

Minnesota went 20-7 in June when they got some lucky wins. Other than that month they are 30-34. But we are supposed to worry they are going to play good enough to get 90 wins? Much less closer to the 95 wins it would take to have a chance to catch the Royals. I am not worried at all.

So who still wants to trade Duffy? I think that ship has sailed.

The Rangers acquired Cliff Lee at the deadline a handful of years ago and he led them to the World Series and was unbelievable in the postseason

...there are examples to fit any narrative

But you are assuming that we play just as good next year. Again, we know where we are as a team right now, 20 games over .500. Next July we might be hovering around .500 at this time, you never know. Win now...a better pitcher DOES increase those odds. Can't bank on what next year brings.