Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13440075)

This dude was more of a cancer than even I thought.

Wow, he better learn how to tackle over the summer, if not the Rams fans are going to be harsh on each of his whiffs.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13439984)

Honest question: do you think that if Belichick was our coach, he would have traded Peters?

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 13440057)

11) Veach went with the best offer he received. The amount was incredibly low for such star quality but the decision was made to move him. What could he do?

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 13440057)

lf than his team.

...

9) Management decided that points 1 and 2 above did not outweigh points 3 and 4 above. With a new QB, the thought was likely building a team-oriented defense that is less about showboating and more about everyone playing their roles well. It sum, they thought (notwithstanding his enormous talent) he was hurting the team more than helping. Andy saw that with TO in Philly.

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 13440057)

Here's the balanced view:



1) Peters is a potential game changer. He is capable of winning a key game for you and is worth being considered a top corner.



2) He is good in coverage as a general matter as well.



3) He doesn't like to tackle so much, and that could cost giving up big plays and first downs at key moments.



4) He is a reckless and immature player who is more about himself than his team.



5) If we kept him, we may have gotten two years out of him and then he would have liked to go on to the Raiders (his home team).



6) If he did well we might have received a good compensation pick for him (depending on the size of his contract), meaning a third or fourth rounder.



7) On the other hand, his professionalism could regress and he could have become a pariah, meaning we would get nothing for him.



8) Other teams were aware of the items above and were not willing to give up meaningful compensation.



9) Management decided that points 1 and 2 above did not outweigh points 3 and 4 above. With a new QB, the thought was likely building a team-oriented defense that is less about showboating and more about everyone playing their roles well. It sum, they thought (notwithstanding his enormous talent) he was hurting the team more than helping. Andy saw that with TO in Philly.



10) With the addition of Fuller, management had the freedom to let him go, assuming that they may well draft a respectable CB in the upcoming draft.



11) Veach went with the best offer he received. The amount was incredibly low for such star quality but the decision was made to move him. What could he do?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13440091)

Keep in mind that I ****ing hate the Patriots and I don't at all agree with Kraft's political positions. But I'll take a stab at this. ....

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13439551)

Go back to DC with this shit. ****ing Dave Lame...

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13440091)

Keep in mind that I ****ing hate the Patriots and I don't at all agree with Kraft's political positions. But I'll take a stab at this.

After Marcus Peters kneeled, Kraft would have immediately called Peters into his office. Tells him to stop kneeling. Offers to support his cause if he cooperates. Kraft makes a statement apologizing for Peters while trying to showcase Peters' cause.

New England fans taunting Peters on the sideline during a win streak would get socked in the face. ESPN comments sections would be littered with Pats fans defending the living shit out of Peters. Know how I know this? Because they defended a mass murderer and serial cheaters with fury.

Peters throws the flag into the crowd. Bellichick chews Peters' ass out. Then he goes to his press conference and grumpily chews the living shit out of the refs who called a shitty game.

Peters chews out his coaches. Bellichick chews Peters the **** out. Then he goes to his coaching staff and asks them why the **** they are running that shitty defense, and that DC would never make that mistake again.

That's what an organization does when the owner takes charge, when the fans have your back, and the coach can give tough love while also fixing the problem the player is griping about.

Originally Posted by xxSnEaKyPxx (Post 13440181)

The Patriots have proven over and over again that they will get rid of any player that puts themselves above the team.

If any player has given them issues in the past, they have been super quick to cut ties with them.

I don't think they'd continue to try and work with Peters.

Could be wrong though.

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 13440182)

Yea having T O sucked for Ried. All that did was get him to his only Super Bowl

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13440172)

Re-evaluate the wisdom of moving the asset if the return was so gapped out from potential value.

There's a TON of downside for the Chiefs here. And very little upside.

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 13440057)

Here's the balanced view:

1) Peters is a potential game changer. He is capable of winning a key game for you and is worth being considered a top corner.

2) He is good in coverage as a general matter as well.

3) He doesn't like to tackle so much, and that could cost giving up big plays and first downs at key moments.

4) He is a reckless and immature player who is more about himself than his team.

5) If we kept him, we may have gotten two years out of him and then he would have liked to go on to the Raiders (his home team).

6) If he did well we might have received a good compensation pick for him (depending on the size of his contract), meaning a third or fourth rounder.

7) On the other hand, his professionalism could regress and he could have become a pariah, meaning we would get nothing for him.

8) Other teams were aware of the items above and were not willing to give up meaningful compensation.

9) Management decided that points 1 and 2 above did not outweigh points 3 and 4 above. With a new QB, the thought was likely building a team-oriented defense that is less about showboating and more about everyone playing their roles well. It sum, they thought (notwithstanding his enormous talent) he was hurting the team more than helping. Andy saw that with TO in Philly.

10) With the addition of Fuller, management had the freedom to let him go, assuming that they may well draft a respectable CB in the upcoming draft.

11) Veach went with the best offer he received. The amount was incredibly low for such star quality but the decision was made to move him. What could he do?