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SHOWTIME 04-25-2025 07:29 AM

Andy said Simmons can play right away. If that is the case, put him in at LT, move Moore to RT, and Kinglsey to LG.

ChiefsHawk 04-25-2025 07:30 AM

Word is that it was only a partial tear which makes a HUGE difference with this injury.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-25-2025 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 18042770)
Andy said Simmons can play right away. If that is the case, put him in at LT, move Moore to RT, and Kinglsey to LG.

95% this is what happens.

chiefzilla1501 04-25-2025 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18042655)
Guys, nobody thinks a healthy Josh Simmons is a bad pick. Nobody.

The question is whether he will EVER be the same player again, and the historical evidence is that it's really unlikely that he will be.

The folks against this pick were against it because it's so damned unlikely, but aren't rooting for him to fail. It's just a HUGE risk.

After sleeping on it, I'm a bit more philosophical about things. No risk it, no bisquit. I'm trusting Veach and Burkholder and I assume they have information that we don't.

If this works out, it's maybe the second best pick in the Andy Reid era. If it doesn't, well, it's not like we haven't had other first round disappointments.

In a vacuum, it doesn't seem like a risk worth taking; the chance of success is so low. But it's not a vacuum, it's an individual, and I'm trusting the doctors here.

Let's roll.

I think we all know it’s a big risk. I don’t think anyone wants him to fail to be proven right. I just think the part that’s missing in that debate is that taking any LT late in the first round has high bust potential. We can either be scared to take those risks or we can take a few swings at it. It just sets up for the same thing we did at qb year after year where we kept waiting for the right qb to fall into our lap. Maybe next year… we said every year. It’s a little safe to not take a big bold risk at a position we’ve proven we can’t fill otherwise

This is such a rare opportunity for us to take a shot at a guy with this kind of a ceiling. I’m ok even if it misses. We played this smart that worse case scenario we can “settle” for Jaylon Moore

In58men 04-25-2025 07:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett Veach said Rick Burkholder called Josh Simmons&#39; response to surgery a &quot;best-case scenario.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1915621976233660754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-25-2025 07:33 AM

How incredible would it be if this guy is your starting LT week 1 LMAO

nychief 04-25-2025 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 18042770)
Andy said Simmons can play right away. If that is the case, put him in at LT, move Moore to RT, and Kinglsey to LG.



This will happen...in 2026.

We aren't moving Taylor and his 20 million to the bench. Plus Moore's snaps at RT were significantly worse than at LT with the 9ers. This may be a situation where Simmons takes over later in the season and Moore becomes the swing, I dunno.

ChiTown 04-25-2025 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 18042776)
I think we all know it’s a big risk. I don’t think anyone wants him to fail to be proven right. I just think the part that’s missing in that debate is that taking any LT late in the first round has high bust potential. We can either be scared to take those risks or we can take a few swings at it. It just sets up for the same thing we did at qb year after year where we kept waiting for the right qb to fall into our lap. Maybe next year… we said every year. It’s a little safe to not take a big bold risk at a position we’ve proven we can’t fill otherwise

This is such a rare opportunity for us to take a shot at a guy with this kind of a ceiling. I’m ok even if it misses. We played this smart that worse case scenario we can “settle” for Jaylon Moore

Thank you for summing this up. This is exactly how I feel about this pick.

Sassy Squatch 04-25-2025 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 18042788)
This will happen...in 2026.

We aren't moving Taylor and his 20 million to the bench. Plus Moore's snaps at RT were significantly worse than at LT with the 9ers. This may be a situation where Simmons takes over later in the season and Moore becomes the swing, I dunno.

Reid has benched Taylor multiple times already. It's been made apparent multiple times through his body language that Reid is absolutely ****ing sick and tired of Taylor and his bullshit penalties. At the very least he's not walking into camp with a starting job in hand.

displacedinMN 04-25-2025 07:39 AM

At least he has an easily pronounceable name for Holthus.

In58men 04-25-2025 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18042780)
How incredible would it be if this guy is your starting LT week 1 LMAO

Chiefs did their due diligence for sure

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Simmons says no team showed more interest in him than the Chiefs did. Met at the Combine, had a 30 visit to KC and had multiple Zoom meetings with the club.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1915620269726552138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 04-25-2025 07:40 AM

Also a bit telling that Morris isn't even in the discussion according to Reid. Seems to have been relegated to OT4 overnight.

RealSNR 04-25-2025 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 18042798)
At least he has an easily pronounceable name for Holthus.

Poor Jamaal had to say "Suamataia" on live TV in front of millions last year

RunKC 04-25-2025 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18042802)
Also a bit telling that Morris isn't even in the discussion according to Reid. Seems to have been relegated to OT4 overnight.

You must have missed the Raiders game when Mahomes wanted him executed

kccrow 04-25-2025 07:43 AM

The study wasn't some random sample subject to a hypothesis and peer review. It's literally doctors looking at the entire population of NFL players who had the injury over more than 20 years and compiling that data. Then they presented the data to give you a meaningful resource on the effect of the injury on NFL players, not only as a whole, but by offense or defense, and skill or linemen.

If any of you actually took the time to read the paper for yourself, you'd see that. Instead of doing that, 15 of you decide to ask me to regurgitate the information and then you basically tell me to wipe my ass with it.

Well, I have. I hope the pick works out for the Chiefs, even if that data says it's unlikely.

But with that, I'm actually done contributing to this cesspool in any meaningful way. No more stats, no more player evals. It's not worth the time to give it to you.


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