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Brock 09-13-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9970944)
Um, no.

I liked him, but said he had problems. I would have like for us to have drafted him, but I realized what he wasn't and moved on.

Sure you have.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9970956)
It doesn't matter who is on the other end of the debate.

Christ, people think we got the best QB of the class as an UDFA.

Time will tell.

At this time last year, Nassib and Glennon weren't on anyone's radar. Wilson was busy ****ing up his senior season (and is currently on a practice squad) and Barkley (weak arm and all) was disappointing for USC.

Glennon's clearly the Next Man Up in Tampa (especially with all of their Freeman issues).

Barkley, Wilson, Nassib and Bray won't see the field in 2013 (and maybe even 2014) unless there's a catastrophic injury.

ChiefsCountry 09-13-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9970871)
The Chiefs fan base and season ticket holders just endured the worst season in Franchise History.

Four of the last six were amongst the worst, if not the worst stretch in the past 50 years. Yet, the solution should have been to draft a QB at 1.1 that was clearly incapable turning around the fortunes of the franchise immediately?

Seriously?

You'd ask this fan base to endure watching a QB on pace to throw 32 INT's? He hasn't even faced a real defense yet.

What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

chiefzilla1501 09-13-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9970956)
It doesn't matter who is on the other end of the debate.

Christ, people think we got the best QB of the class as an UDFA.

I think it absolutely matters when we're talking about a guy who completely bottomed out in the draft. For every Aaron Rodgers, there is a Jimmy Clausen and a Brady Quinn.

I would have liked a QB, but I'm thinking more and more it should have been Manuel.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9970964)
What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

BigMeatballDave 09-13-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9970964)
What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

**** that 13-3 junk.

The Giants and Packers won SBs with 10-6 and 9-7 records. Who gives a shit about having a great regular season? NE has proven what a waste of time that is.

lcarus 09-13-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9970922)
Because I as a fan have an impact on who they trade for/draft, etc?

Yes the entire Kansas City Chiefs fanbase is stupid and doesn't deserve an elite franchise QB because some people on a message board notorious for over-exaggerations and brutality have criticized shitty play of some young QBs, especially QBs on other teams, when the general consensus here is "**** other teams and their ****ing shitty players". KANSAS CITY DOESN'T DESERVE IT! THANKS CP! YOU MADE US UNWORTHY! :cuss:

ChiefsCountry 09-13-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9970967)
That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

Sandy Vagina 09-13-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9970967)
That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

Exactly right. It's easy for some fans to accept more shit years for the chance of developing a franchise QB that can be great later.. but the teams and coaches can't accept that approach, and neither should any fan.

What if with this vet QB, the Chiefs can win 9 games this season and 12 the next while also developing a young QB to take the team to the ultimate level?
(if so intent that this vet now can not )

lcarus 09-13-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9970967)
That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

You wouldn't want to watch? We could have Pigeon McBuffalochip at QB and I'd still have to watch every week. I can't help it. It's entertainment to me no matter what happens. Last year was tough though....very tough. Still entertaining in a disaster movie type of way though.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9970981)
So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

Patience? Sure. Spent my Sundays watching them or caring? No.

At this point in my life, there are far more important things happening than watching a QB "lead" a team to a 1-15 record.

After enduring 4-12, 2-14, 4-12 and the worst season in franchise history at 2-14, I would not be watching right now if they chose to start a guy that wasn't NFL ready.

BigMeatballDave 09-13-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9970981)
So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

Are the Chiefs going to trade Jamaal Charles for a load of draft picks?

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9970991)
You wouldn't want to watch? We could have Pigeon McBuffalochip at QB and I'd still have to watch every week. I can't help it. It's entertainment to me no matter what happens. Last year was tough though....very tough. Still entertaining in a disaster movie type of way though.

I'm nearly 48 years old. I have a one year old and a five year old.

I'd rather be at Disneyland with my family on Sunday than watch a 1-15 team go 1-15.

lcarus 09-13-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9971005)
I'm nearly 48 years old. I have a one year old and a five year old.

I'd rather be at Disneyland with my family on Sunday than watch a 1-15 team go 1-15.

I see. I'm only 30 and no wife or kids. I can tell my love for obsessively tuning in to my favorite sports teams is dipping a LITTLE bit. I'll get there.

ChiefsCountry 09-13-2013 06:11 PM

So we are back to being the 90s Chiefs. I would rather be the 90s Cowboys. I'll take another down and shitty year if it means we are a threat to win a Super Bowl every year.


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