Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161096)

I think there's more to the story than these texts and high priced dinners. I have no idea what it is, but I think Martin being gay is a possibility.

If, when you ask if it matters, you mean do I think that would justify mistreatment, the answer is no.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10161193)

What a load of horseshit that post is.

Perhaps Incognito is keeping Martin from morphing into The Beast by constantly bullying him and that's why he's doing it. Or, perhaps an asshole with a history of being an asshole at Nebraska, Oregon, St. Louis, and now on voicemail in Miami, is just an asshole.

Furthermore, I suggest you look up what a connotation is, because either you're willfully being obtuse and full of shit (which is the likely case) or you have no idea what the connotations are of the words you use and how you structure them.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161196)

I'm completely convinced that Incognito is a total piece of shit. However, there could be circumstances that would make it less reprehensible.

Martin is notoriously soft mentally. Maybe he lets trash talk into his head during games, so Incognito said that he would harass Martin until he learned to ignore it...kind of like what drill sergeants do.

I think it's worth hearing his side.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161215)

I looked up the word "unspeakable" instead in an attempt to figure out why you think it's so important for information about Martin's sexuality to be kept hidden? What is it you think is so bad about homosexuality?

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10161211)

I kind of think the "more" part is Incognito being voted the NFL's dirtiest player, being kicked off two college teams for bad behavior, and being labeled as undraftable for character reasons by at least one NFL team and likely many more.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10161221)

If Incognito has a story, he'd better share it really, really fast, because the story is growing far past his ability to impact it. I think if he had a story he would have shared it by now.

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10161223)

You can drop the act now, it's pretty clear why you are fixating so much on Martin's sexuality.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161215)

I looked up the word "unspeakable" instead in an attempt to figure out why you think it's so important for information about Martin's sexuality to be kept hidden? What is it you think is so bad about homosexuality?

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161226)

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161226)

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161226)

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161233)

I agree...but I'm not talking about the likelihood of him having this alibi. I'm just trying to establish that context could, in fact, matter.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10161244)

I don't know enough about Mike Wallace to know whether I value his opinion or not. Or whether Incognito told him, "Tweet something nice about me or I'll kill your parents." Wallace's statement seemed pretty stilted.