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Demonpenz 11-10-2012 12:48 PM

I like Kevin Harvick and Tony Stewart. Both seem like mean dudes.

RNR 11-10-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9103403)
I like Kevin Harvick and Tony Stewart. Both seem like mean dudes.

They have been close friends for years so it is not that surprising~

chefsos 11-10-2012 03:40 PM

It's too bad that more CP dudes don't post in this thread, because we're missing several Delana butt-grab jokes here.

chefsos 11-10-2012 03:55 PM

And while I'm at it, I just want to say it's a shame Dodge pulled out of NASCAR.

We won't get to see this car on the track next year:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yD7SxxJrFJATFg

Bugeater 11-10-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 9103874)
And while I'm at it, I just want to say it's a shame Dodge pulled out of NASCAR.

We won't get to see this car on the track next year:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yD7SxxJrFJATFg

We wouldn't have seen it in the Cup series anyway.

chefsos 11-10-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Butteater (Post 9103895)
We wouldn't have seen it in the Cup series anyway.

Maybe someone like Joe Nemechek should run one so we could see it. For a lap or two, anyway.

Al Bundy 11-11-2012 05:27 PM

Gordon/Boyer's "Incident" was uhhhmm interesting.

ROYC75 11-11-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9106994)
Gordon/Boyer's "Incident" was uhhhmm interesting.

That was just plain nutty!:eek:

RNR 11-11-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9106994)
Gordon/Boyer's "Incident" was uhhhmm interesting.

I understand payback, but not when it takes a contender out of the championship race. That is something you would expect from a shitbag like Kyle Busch not a 4 time champion. Good to see the 29 in the winners circle though~

Demonpenz 11-11-2012 10:09 PM

That was aweful by the 24. What the hell was the point.

GloryDayz 11-11-2012 10:44 PM

Every driver should take turns rubbing Boyer into the wall next year.

Dylan 11-11-2012 11:04 PM

Gordon retaliates against Bowyer, fight ensues

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FwfKK2yfMTs?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjk1KPDFAE

LMAO

Al Bundy 11-11-2012 11:14 PM

Ricky Craven was saying that drivers keep everything like that in their mind, They always know who wrecked them.

Dylan 11-12-2012 12:18 AM

I have never seen crews go after another driver...Crews went after Jeff Gordon – They attacked him. Gordon is somewhere under that big pile. Then crews piled up on Clint Bowyer … Wow! LOL

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Excerpt: Brad Keselowski steamed in Phoenix

Fans may look back at the fights and crashes that occurred as entertaining, such as the 1979 Daytona 500 that ended with Cale Yarborough and the Allison brothers getting into a fistfight in the infield grass.

But this went beyond entertaining. It was, as Keselowski said repeatedly, "absolutely ridiculous."

Pick your moment. There was the wreck between Clint Bowyer and Jeff Gordon fighting over fifth place, and the ensuing melees -- first between Gordon and Bowyer's crew on pit road and then between Bowyer and Gordon's crew in the garage.

There was NASCAR's decision to throw a quick caution just before Harvick took the white flag for what should have been the win for the sake of a green-white-checkered finish.

There was NASCAR's decision to let the race continue with the frontstretch covered in oil and Danica Patrick's car spun out in the middle, resulting in a multicar wreck in which Keselowski barely got through for his sixth-place finish.

It was so out of control that winning owner Richard Childress went to the NASCAR hauler after the race to complain that Harvick should have won before the green-white-checkered finish.

There was so much going on that Jimmie Johnson blowing a tire on Lap 236 of what turned out to be a 319-lap race to give up the points lead -- and probably the title -- was almost an afterthought.

"I'm more just disappointed in the quality of racing that we saw today," Keselowski said. "I thought it was absolutely ridiculous, and I was ashamed to be a part of it."

But that wasn't on his mind or anybody else's after Sunday's finish, which looked like the last lap at Talladega.

It was particularly personal to Keselowski because only a week ago at Texas defending Cup champion Tony Stewart said he had a "death wish" for racing Johnson so hard over the final laps.

"It's the double standard that I spent a whole week being bashed by a half a dozen drivers about racing hard at Texas and how I'm out of control and have a death wish, and then I see bulls--- like that," Keselowski said, his voice growing louder.

"That's all you can call that. These guys just tried to kill each other. You race hard and I get called an a------ for racing hard and called with a death wish, and I see s--- like that, and it just pisses me off.

Keselowski paused to say he wasn't yelling as his voice grew louder and louder.

"It's just … ridiculous, and they should be ashamed," he continued. "It's embarrassing."
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...ckseat-phoenix

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 02:16 PM

My thoughts:

* Until somebody reviews the tapes to see what set a normally calm JG off, why are we talking about this. The problem with sports is that we only adjudicate the effect, never the cause. So good for you Jeff, the world knows Boyer and you finally did something about it!

* Boyer is a poser sissy! He runs all the way to Jeff's trailer (like a he-man), then one person stops him on the ramp from getting to his target???!!! LOL, nice play for the cameras and your fans Clint. You pussy! Come to Lees Summit and show me some of the he-man shit! Candy ass; go do your nails!

* Clint said he was surprised?!!! We all are, you pi55ed off a real driver! But you sure did deserve it sooooooo much. But NASCAR will take it out on Jeff; you're awesome you coward. Get some More) bondo and STFU! In fact, get a case, you're going to need it! If there's a God, next year each driver will put you into the wall and say Ooooops.

* NASCAR loves this. They need this! So they'll hand-out their fines then high-five each other when next week's rating are all the better for the press Jeff gave them.

* And in a sport that has little way of knowing if an accident is an accident, they had better get with the drivers and figure out how to deal with driving that's past the limit, how to tell when it is, and what to do about it before drivers feel they need to take matters into their own hands like this.

* Team driving and championship strategies could play into a lot of "bigger picture" issues in the sport, so sans honesty, what makes two drivers who might want somebody to win to not think team and pinch a points or race leader? We're seeing more of these retaliations, and France and crew seem to be doing little to prevent them.

* Brad's a whiner, but makes a good point in his latest whine, and he will will the championship. Good for him, he's a great driver and has a great team.

RNR 11-12-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9109407)
My thoughts:

* Until somebody reviews the tapes to see what set a normally calm JG off, why are we talking about this. The problem with sports is that we only adjudicate the effect, never the cause. So good for you Jeff, the world knows Boyer and you finally did something about it!

* Boyer is a poser sissy! He runs all the way to Jeff's trailer (like a he-man), then one person stops him on the ramp from getting to his target???!!! LOL, nice play for the cameras and your fans Clint. You pussy! Come to Lees Summit and show me some of the he-man shit! Candy ass; go do your nails!

* Clint said he was surprised?!!! We all are, you pi55ed off a real driver! But you sure did deserve it sooooooo much. But NASCAR will take it out on Jeff; you're awesome you coward. Get some More) bondo and STFU! In fact, get a case, you're going to need it! If there's a God, next year each driver will put you into the wall and say Ooooops.

* NASCAR loves this. They need this! So they'll hand-out their fines then high-five each other when next week's rating are all the better for the press Jeff gave them.

* And in a sport that has little way of knowing if an accident is an accident, they had better get with the drivers and figure out how to deal with driving that's past the limit, how to tell when it is, and what to do about it before drivers feel they need to take matters into their own hands like this.

* Team driving and championship strategies could play into a lot of "bigger picture" issues in the sport, so sans honesty, what makes two drivers who might want somebody to win to not think team and pinch a points or race leader? We're seeing more of these retaliations, and France and crew seem to be doing little to prevent them.

* Brad's a whiner, but makes a good point in his latest whine, and he will will the championship. Good for him, he's a great driver and has a great team.

I don't pull for either driver. I understand payback, but the fact remains he was under a black flag and he waited until Bowyer got to him and wrecked him. With championship racing involved that was a chickenshit move. There is a time for payback and it was not yesterday. One of the sports greatest drivers should be above this type of move. Mid season I would not have a problem with it. Gordon put a stain on his record with this classless move. He will have a good view of the race next week in his living room~

TheGreatCassholio 11-12-2012 02:38 PM

I am more upset about the fact there was no caution that came out for Danica. I understand letting them race for the win, and I am 1 of the biggest supporters of it. However, Phoenix is notorious for having to look straight into the sun on the frontstretch, combined with the amount of fluid that was out there, that could have turned very very ugly coming to the checkers.

RNR 11-12-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatCassholio (Post 9109454)
I am more upset about the fact there was no caution that came out for Danica. I understand letting them race for the win, and I am 1 of the biggest supporters of it. However, Phoenix is notorious for having to look straight into the sun on the frontstretch, combined with the amount of fluid that was out there, that could have turned very very ugly coming to the checkers.

That was very reckless on NASCAR's part~

ROYC75 11-12-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9109407)
My thoughts:

* Until somebody reviews the tapes to see what set a normally calm JG off, why are we talking about this. The problem with sports is that we only adjudicate the effect, never the cause. So good for you Jeff, the world knows Boyer and you finally did something about it!

* Boyer is a poser sissy! He runs all the way to Jeff's trailer (like a he-man), then one person stops him on the ramp from getting to his target???!!! LOL, nice play for the cameras and your fans Clint. You pussy! Come to Lees Summit and show me some of the he-man shit! Candy ass; go do your nails!

* Clint said he was surprised?!!! We all are, you pi55ed off a real driver! But you sure did deserve it sooooooo much. But NASCAR will take it out on Jeff; you're awesome you coward. Get some More) bondo and STFU! In fact, get a case, you're going to need it! If there's a God, next year each driver will put you into the wall and say Ooooops.

* NASCAR loves this. They need this! So they'll hand-out their fines then high-five each other when next week's rating are all the better for the press Jeff gave them.

* And in a sport that has little way of knowing if an accident is an accident, they had better get with the drivers and figure out how to deal with driving that's past the limit, how to tell when it is, and what to do about it before drivers feel they need to take matters into their own hands like this.

* Team driving and championship strategies could play into a lot of "bigger picture" issues in the sport, so sans honesty, what makes two drivers who might want somebody to win to not think team and pinch a points or race leader? We're seeing more of these retaliations, and France and crew seem to be doing little to prevent them.

* Brad's a whiner, but makes a good point in his latest whine, and he will will the championship. Good for him, he's a great driver and has a great team.

Right, got it, Gordon slows up gets off the throttle, Boyer has one one option, ram him in the ass or go around, so he goes low, Gordon goes left and they make contact, both below the line of all things.... but it's Boyer's fault.

Hello there Jeff Gordon fan. Gordon could be upset he's a guy past his prime that can't get laid by a 2 trick gigolo.

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 9109439)
I don't pull for either driver. I understand payback, but the fact remains he was under a black flag and he waited until Bowyer got to him and wrecked him. With championship racing involved that was a chickenshit move. There is a time for payback and it was not yesterday. One of the sports greatest drivers should be above this type of move. Mid season I would not have a problem with it. Gordon put a stain on his record with this classless move. He will have a good view of the race next week in his living room~

It'll go past next week I suspect. But it is what it is... He knows he's not going to win another championship, so it's all good. The real chickenshit moves is NASCAR doing nothing to the drivers that act like Boyer, and then act surprised when this happens. Gordon was wrong, but sans NASCAR doing anything to the Boyers of the sport, this will keep happening.

What should happen is Gordon do nothing, then next week, a teammate put Boyer into the wall. Then act surprised. Spread the wealth...

So Jeff gets to the beach first, spends some quality time with the family, and prolly gets 3-4 races off to start next year too. Qoot! That's cool, as long as he knows he can't win next years championship, he can spend more time taking the air off of Boyer's spoiler (just as he goes into those high-speed turns) and watching the Boyer's ! Don't touch him, just take the down-force off him. THAT'S legal! A few wrecked cars into the season and maybe Five Hour Energy will want their paint on another ride! Like!

I say let them fight too! A) it's entertaining, and B) it sure will make any dumbass like Boyer think twice before manufacturing another "accident." Plus, high adrenaline fights between non-fighters (and no current NASCAR driver is a fighter!!) are just fun to watch!

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9109464)
Right, got it, Gordon slows up gets off the throttle, Boyer has one one option, ram him in the ass or go around, so he goes low, Gordon goes left and they make contact, both below the line of all things.... but it's Boyer's fault.

Hello there Jeff Gordon fan. Gordon could be upset he's a guy past his prime that can't get laid by a 2 trick gigolo.

LOL, I do like him, but I'm more of JJ fan these days. And I had fun watching what he finally did to Boyer. Lord knows somebody needed to do it... So you're either a Boyer fan, or just a JG hater. I love how Boyer plays innocent! LOL! It's all good, it was entertaining and nobody got hurt.

RNR 11-12-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9109550)
It'll go past next week I suspect. But it is what it is... He knows he's not going to win another championship, so it's all good. The real chickenshit moves is NASCAR doing nothing to the drivers that act like Boyer, and then act surprised when this happens. Gordon was wrong, but sans NASCAR doing anything to the Boyers of the sport, this will keep happening.

What should happen is Gordon do nothing, then next week, a teammate put Boyer into the wall. Then act surprised. Spread the wealth...

So Jeff gets to the beach first, spends some quality time with the family, and prolly gets 3-4 races off to start next year too. Qoot! That's cool, as long as he knows he can't win next years championship, he can spend more time taking the air off of Boyer's spoiler (just as he goes into those high-speed turns) and watching the Boyer's ! Don't touch him, just take the down-force off him. THAT'S legal! A few wrecked cars into the season and maybe Five Hour Energy will want their paint on another ride! Like!

I say let them fight too! A) it's entertaining, and B) it sure will make any dumbass like Boyer think twice before manufacturing another "accident." Plus, high adrenaline fights between non-fighters (and no current NASCAR driver is a fighter!!) are just fun to watch!

What he should have done is not effect the outcome of a championship. A champion knows that and I am sure if he had it to do over again he would have went to the pit and settled the score at Bristol or Martinsville next year. He lost a lot of respect in the garage and his sponsors will not be thrilled with the negative press. As a fan I find it disappointing because the title is all but locked up now. Johnson hit the wall and Bowyer was in a position to make a move which could have provided a exciting race next week. Some will say he had little chance anyway. I disagree Harvick won the race with far from the best car, Bowyer had a chance to do the same~

ROYC75 11-12-2012 05:21 PM

Gordon fined 100 K and 25 points.

Looks like NASCAR is sending a message to Good Ole Boy Jeff Gordon.

Gordon really did something classless and it will lose him some respect amongst the pits.

Jeff Gordon has been nothing since Ray Everham left years ago.

RNR 11-12-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9109864)
Gordon fined 100 K and 25 points.

Looks like NASCAR is sending a message to Good Ole Boy Jeff Gordon.

Gordon really did something classless and it will lose him some respect amongst the pits.

Jeff Gordon has been nothing since Ray Everham left years ago.

He should have been parked. That is a joke~

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 9109643)
What he should have done is not effect the outcome of a championship. A champion knows that and I am sure if he had it to do over again he would have went to the pit and settled the score at Bristol or Martinsville next year. He lost a lot of respect in the garage and his sponsors will not be thrilled with the negative press. As a fan I find it disappointing because the title is all but locked up now. Johnson hit the wall and Bowyer was in a position to make a move which could have provided a exciting race next week. Some will say he had little chance anyway. I disagree Harvick won the race with far from the best car, Bowyer had a chance to do the same~

I suspect Dupont will pull out as his sponsor this week. As for affecting the outcome, The 2 will win, the outcome is fine, nobody hurt. As for Clint's chances being made more difficult, Karma's a biotch!

All I hope is that this $100,000 and 25 points causes the France's to take a look at driving that's beyond hard. There are a lot of angles to look at it from, not just purposly wrecking somebody.

Here are my thoughts, let this simmer down and have the sport park anybody who "causes" a wreck if anything short of a lightening strike or a blowout causes the the wreck. It's time for rough driving to not be seen as good driving. If you don't agree, then what happened here is jsut fine, it's entertaining...

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9109864)
Gordon fined 100 K and 25 points.

Looks like NASCAR is sending a message to Good Ole Boy Jeff Gordon.

Gordon really did something classless and it will lose him some respect amongst the pits.

Jeff Gordon has been nothing since Ray Everham left years ago.

Maybe they're also sending a message to Clint and every other driver who acts surprised after a year of wrecking people and thinking it was just racing.

Good call NASCAR, Jeff was on top when this sport went from hill-billy heaven to a mainstream entertainment medium. Coincidence? Perhaps. I chose to think differently. So maybe his last act of defiance/charity will be to fix one part of the sport that's in dire need of fixing.

If he can find a way to fix the points system - making leading laps and winning the race about the only f***ing thing that matters - then we'd be on our way to races that are even better. No hanging back for 350 miles, and winning doubles the points you had int he race up to that point. Do that and you'd see racing from the start.

kcxiv 11-12-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9109864)
Gordon fined 100 K and 25 points.

Looks like NASCAR is sending a message to Good Ole Boy Jeff Gordon.

Gordon really did something classless and it will lose him some respect amongst the pits.

Jeff Gordon has been nothing since Ray Everham left years ago.

Gordon is an all time great, he's not going to lose respect from anyone in the "garage". some will say, i'd do the same thing, some may be like about time someone did something like that.

There have been drivers in nascar (Dale Sr) that always raced dirty and he wasnt losing anyone respect ever.

People just like to say shit to get a non story into a story.

Its just a big as eh, they will get over it and people will forget about it in a week or so.

Saul Good 11-12-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9110228)
Maybe they're also sending a message to Clint and every other driver who acts surprised after a year of wrecking people and thinking it was just racing.

Good call NASCAR, Jeff was on top when this sport went from hill-billy heaven to a mainstream entertainment medium. Coincidence? Perhaps. I chose to think differently. So maybe his last act of defiance/charity will be to fix one part of the sport that's in dire need of fixing.

If he can find a way to fix the points system - making leading laps and winning the race about the only f***ing thing that matters - then we'd be on our way to races that are even better. No hanging back for 350 miles, and winning doubles the points you had int he race up to that point. Do that and you'd see racing from the start.

You have guys racing hard from the start, and you get a nine hour race with five cars left at the end.

GloryDayz 11-12-2012 07:58 PM

I've heard that theory, not sure it's true. But hanging back and waiting isnt what the sport is about. It should hurt those who do.

KC native 11-12-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9110786)
I've heard that theory, not sure it's true. But hanging back and waiting isnt what the sport is about. It should hurt those who do.

Or you guys could watch some real racing like F1, Aussie V8 super cars and not have to worry about that

GloryDayz 11-13-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9111296)
Or you guys could watch some real racing like F1, Aussie V8 super cars and not have to worry about that

I had a number of my youth-years in Europe (Rome, Italy), so I'm a huge fan of F1 and Rally. Rally provides the world some of the best drivers in all of "driving" sports (and some of the dumbest fans too). So I am, I just think NASCAR could do a lot to make the sport even more entertaining. Did I mention add another 5-8 road courses to the season?

KC native 11-13-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9114721)
I had a number of my youth-years in Europe (Rome, Italy), so I'm a huge fan of F1 and Rally. Rally provides the world some of the best drivers in all of "driving" sports (and some of the dumbest fans too). So I am, I just think NASCAR could do a lot to make the sport even more entertaining. Did I mention add another 5-8 road courses to the season?

That would be a start. Restrictor plates need to go too.

chefsos 11-13-2012 11:21 PM

I need to add an epilogue to the Gordon/Bowyer circus, because I think this is fabulous. Brad Keselowski went off in a post-race interview. I'm starting to like this kid.

NSFW (****ing Bullshit!)

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Dylan 11-18-2012 05:10 PM

Brad Keselowski is on the brink of winning his first NASCAR championship title!!!

Great job... Woo!!

Down to the last lap.

Edit: Jeff Gordon wins the race @ Homestead.

Dylan 11-18-2012 05:15 PM

Congratulations Brad Keselowski and Roger Penske: 2012 NASCAR CHAMPIONS!

Can I pick 'um or what?

Hell with a couple of immature biddies in this thread, who think you can only root for one driver...**** that! LMAO

In58men 11-18-2012 05:17 PM

WTG go Bad Brad Keselowski

Bugeater 11-18-2012 05:19 PM

Apparently Kez is still busy beating the crap out of his car.

Demonpenz 11-18-2012 05:20 PM

#2 Way to go.

Dylan 11-18-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9130661)
WTG go Bad Brad Keselowski


http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/dam/a...omepage-t1.jpg

AMAZING!

Congratulations Brad...You're the Man!

And congratulations to Roger Penske on his FIRST NASCAR Championship title!

Bugeater 11-18-2012 05:24 PM

LMAO Awesome, he doused the Sprint girl with nasty Miller Lite. Kez is my new favorite driver.

Dylan 11-18-2012 05:28 PM

It's hard to believe that this is Roger Penske's first NASCAR title of any kind in almost 40 years of trying.

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Roger Penske has won 23 national championships in open-wheel racing along with 15 Indianapolis 500s.

Dylan 11-18-2012 05:33 PM

Wow, Keselowski wins $5.6 million dollars...

Nice day's pay.

Bugeater 11-18-2012 05:40 PM

98 DAYS UNTIL DAYTONA!

chefsos 11-18-2012 05:42 PM

I don't think Penske has run a NASCAR team for 40 consecutive years, though. He was there in the '70s and then got out for a while; I think he got back in in the late '80s/early '90s with Rusty Wallace.

He certainly wasn't winning any titles in those underpowered Ramblers he ran in the '70s...


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