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SPchief 04-02-2018 10:57 PM

There has to be something more going on.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-02-2018 11:36 PM

Miguel Almonte? Seriously? He was never gonna turn into anything. I don't know why anyone would give a shit about this move.

Sure-Oz 04-03-2018 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13500596)
https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/4/...braham-almonte

So they DFA'd him for a 28 year old of'er

What the hell gmdm

@rustindodd: Abraham Almonte, 28, hit .233/.314/.366 while playing 69 games in the outfield for Cleveland last season.

Great Expectations 04-03-2018 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13500818)
@rustindodd: Abraham Almonte, 28, hit .233/.314/.366 while playing 69 games in the outfield for Cleveland last season.

That is better than Gordo.

DeepSouth 04-03-2018 01:31 PM

After the win today, Junis and Herrera both have an era of 0.00. And, Herrera's first save.

Bufkin 04-03-2018 01:55 PM

4 games in, and Alcides Escobar is our best positional player.

ChiTown 04-03-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13501371)
4 games in, and Alcides Escobar is our best positional player.

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duncan_idaho 04-03-2018 02:08 PM

Herrera’s velocity has been good and he has 7 swinging strikes in 27 pitches. That’s a crazy high swinging strike rate that won’t hold up, but seeing him punch that rate up is huge.

His best season was 2016, and it was his career high for swinging strikes. If he can keep that rate up, I think we see the stud reliever we’d gotten used to prior to 2017.

Even just holding a 15 percent rate would push him into that territory. With his stuff, used right, that’s possible.

ChiefsCountry 04-03-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13501392)
Herrera’s velocity has been good and he has 7 swinging strikes in 27 pitches. That’s a crazy high swinging strike rate that won’t hold up, but seeing him punch that rate up is huge.

His best season was 2016, and it was his career high for swinging strikes. If he can keep that rate up, I think we see the stud reliever we’d gotten used to prior to 2017.

Even just holding a 15 percent rate would push him into that territory. With his stuff, used right, that’s possible.

Herrera is the big time trade deadline chip they have this year. Teams always need relievers, especially ones that have pitched in big time games. We should get a decent return for him.

ChiefsCountry 04-03-2018 02:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Cole Hamels can block trades to all teams except Mariners, Cardinals, Nationals, Astros, Cubs, Phillies, Braves, Royals, and Rays. He earns $22.5M this season in final year of contract, followed by $20M club option ($6M buyout) for 2019. <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLBNetwork</a></p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/981265372660817921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Pitt Gorilla 04-03-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13501410)
Herrera is the big time trade deadline chip they have this year. Teams always need relievers, especially ones that have pitched in big time games. We should get a decent return for him.

Shut him down, put him on ice, and wait for the offers. ;)

Bufkin 04-03-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 13501383)

Only Cuthbert has a higher OPS, and Esky’s glove at shortstop is the deal breaker. The diving play he made on opening day was beautiful.

ChiTown 04-04-2018 10:41 AM

Good news. The Royals can't lose today.

Game called due to cold weather. Pussies...........

WhawhaWhat 04-04-2018 11:33 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a> have acquired RHP Miguel Almonte from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for cash considerations or a PTBNL. Almonte has been optioned to <a href="https://twitter.com/SaltLakeBees?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SaltLakeBees</a>. <br><br>To make room on the 40-man roster, C Juan Graterol has been designated for assignment.</p>&mdash; Angels PR (@LAAngelsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/981574617990029312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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OKchiefs 04-04-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13502895)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a> have acquired RHP Miguel Almonte from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for cash considerations or a PTBNL. Almonte has been optioned to <a href="https://twitter.com/SaltLakeBees?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SaltLakeBees</a>. <br><br>To make room on the 40-man roster, C Juan Graterol has been designated for assignment.</p>&mdash; Angels PR (@LAAngelsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/981574617990029312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Another pitcher we failed to develop? Shocking!

siberian khatru 04-04-2018 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13502895)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a> have acquired RHP Miguel Almonte from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for cash considerations or a PTBNL. Almonte has been optioned to <a href="https://twitter.com/SaltLakeBees?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SaltLakeBees</a>. <br><br>To make room on the 40-man roster, C Juan Graterol has been designated for assignment.</p>&mdash; Angels PR (@LAAngelsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/LAAngelsPR/status/981574617990029312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Gotta be something else going on with Almonte, something not related to health and performance.

Pitt Gorilla 04-04-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13502907)
Gotta be something else going on with Almonte, something not related to health and performance.

He watched porn one time.

CaliforniaChief 04-04-2018 12:01 PM

At first I thought I saw cash or a PIIHB. Guess you could look at it that way?

DeepSouth 04-04-2018 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13502907)
Gotta be something else going on with Almonte, something not related to health and performance.

I wonder if he and Jorge Bonifacio hung out together in the Dominican Republic?

Mama Hip Rockets 04-04-2018 04:26 PM

Why are we still in the offseason thread?

Mother****erJones 04-04-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13502906)
Another pitcher we failed to develop? Shocking!

It’s funny the white sox can’t develop hitters but can develop pitching out the ass

WhawhaWhat 04-04-2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13502907)
Gotta be something else going on with Almonte, something not related to health and performance.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals had concerns about Almonte’s health, including his ability to pitch soon with his shoulder. Like Zimmer, he’s battled arm issues over the years, and they needed a spot. We’ll see if it’s wise, but a fairly straightforward baseball move.<a href="https://t.co/tlARsZdhEj">https://t.co/tlARsZdhEj</a></p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/981660926897197056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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CaliforniaChief 04-04-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 13503323)
Why are we still in the offseason thread?

Reliving the good old days of glory.

BlackHelicopters 04-04-2018 05:29 PM

Well, I guess we have to rely on Zimmer to solidify the rotation. Bye Almonte.

Mecca 04-04-2018 06:14 PM

Watching a team that should be rebuilding release young plays for JAGS because they need dudes just cause makes no sense.

Really beginning to question if Dayton Moore's World Series was a sell your soul to the devil type of thing.

Sure-Oz 04-04-2018 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13503495)
Watching a team that should be rebuilding release young plays for JAGS because they need dudes just cause makes no sense.

Really beginning to question if Dayton Moore's World Series was a sell your soul to the devil type of thing.

I'm not sure wth he's doing.... hopefully he drafts well this time.

siberian khatru 04-04-2018 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13503371)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals had concerns about Almonte’s health, including his ability to pitch soon with his shoulder. Like Zimmer, he’s battled arm issues over the years, and they needed a spot. We’ll see if it’s wise, but a fairly straightforward baseball move.<a href="https://t.co/tlARsZdhEj">https://t.co/tlARsZdhEj</a></p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/981660926897197056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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If he’s hurt there are ways to move him off the 40 and stash him to see how he rehabs without getting rid of him. And why in the world would they feel compelled to make such a move to make room for Abraham Almonte of all people?

tk13 04-04-2018 08:38 PM

That's the part that I don't get. Sometimes guys get hurt or you just run out of room to stash guys. I don't get why they needed to do this for Abraham Almonte.

duncan_idaho 04-05-2018 08:47 AM

I’ll try to get the 2018 season repo started tonight. I’ll bring over some of the draft pick stuff and try to highlight some prospects to watch this year.

Slightly related preview: Really do think Jakob Junis is for real and may be the Royals best starter entering 2019, even if Duffy is healthy.

His slider is a real weapon, and he understands how to use it.

That’s an encouraging sign for the Royals pitching development. Antique Bill Fischer was the pitching director for minor leagues for most of the first half of Moore’s GM-ship. His direction was good for getting guys to max out their stuff and velocity but not as good at developing look and feel for pitching and was especially anti-slider.

WhawhaWhat 04-05-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13503747)
If he’s hurt there are ways to move him off the 40 and stash him to see how he rehabs without getting rid of him.

If he's hurt, and more towards the chronically hurt like Zimmer, why do they need to bother keeping him on the 40-man?

They are allegedly going to re-sign Zimmer, maybe that was the plan for Almonte until they got a decent offer for him.

Chiefspants 04-06-2018 02:13 PM

If you all are up for a pick-me-up, I stumbled upon a condensed game of our 2015 Opening Day ass-kicking of the White Sox today.

Everything about that day felt like a good omen - from our spectacular base running, incredible defense, the oppo shot from Moose, the contributions of our new additions (Kendrys, Rios and Madson), and a dominant outing from Ace Ventura. The team was also as goofy and fiery as all get out, from getting targeted by Sarjahejizh, Ace's cramp, Lorenzo's looney toons fall - if there was one game that would set the tone for the season and could convince the masses that 2014 wasn't a fluke, it was this one.

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KCUnited 04-06-2018 02:25 PM

Offense gives Duffy a 2-0 lead in the 1st, Duffy responds with a 4 pitch walk.

Dartgod 04-06-2018 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13505954)
Offense gives Duffy a 2-0 lead in the 1st, Duffy responds with a 4 pitch walk.

Back to back walks and now 3-0 on batter number 3. I don't know what the **** his issue is, but I'm starting to not be a fan.

KCUnited 04-06-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13505963)
Back to back walks and now 3-0 on batter number 3. I don't know what the **** his issue is, but I'm starting to not be a fan.

The meltdown is on. He looks like Charles Barkley swinging a golf club out there.

Fish 04-06-2018 02:37 PM

Duffy might not last through the first ****ing inning. JFC....

OKchiefs 04-06-2018 02:44 PM

"Bury me a Royal..."

Anyone have a shovel?

KChiefs1 04-06-2018 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13505972)
Duffy might not last through the first ****ing inning. JFC....



Duffy's arm is shot.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 02:44 PM

Nice recovery after a horrific start. Let's see if he's settled down or not.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-06-2018 03:11 PM

Duffy seems to have settled in.

Not sure what the hell happened in that first inning. If his control was just ‘off’ or he was overthrowing?

KCUnited 04-06-2018 03:17 PM

Ned actually chewing some ass seemed to work.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 03:21 PM

Duffy's fastball velocity is down this inning

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 03:26 PM

Still effective, though

KCUnited 04-06-2018 03:55 PM

Umpire refusing to call ball 4

ChiefsCountry 04-06-2018 04:02 PM

I'm not around and no game thread gets made. You slackers.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:07 PM

Great bounceback by Duffy.

And Keller continues to impress.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13506098)

And Keller continues to impress.

And then he promptly falls behind the leadoff hitter and gives up a double.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:26 PM

Keller back to impressing

petegz28 04-06-2018 04:35 PM

Bases loaded, 1 out, Duda gets called looking...
Man on 1st & 2nd, 0 outs, Moose K's, Duda K's

petegz28 04-06-2018 04:37 PM

And Cuthbert K's but it was a shit call

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:37 PM

Ugh. Miller's tough, though.

Deberg_1990 04-06-2018 04:38 PM

Miller doesn’t need any help with a wide strike zone ump

Chiefspants 04-06-2018 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13506138)
And Cuthbert K's but it was a shit call

Cutty lined out. Strike 2 was the BS one.

petegz28 04-06-2018 04:40 PM

Can't say we haven't had chances to tie or take the lead....we just forget how to put the bat on the ball when we have those chances....literally

TomBarndtsTwin 04-06-2018 04:40 PM

Millers a good enough pitcher on his own. It’s damn near impossible when he’s getting bullshit strike calls to help him out.

Oh well. Not like it matters in the long run, I guess.

Dartgod 04-06-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13506136)
Man on 1st & 2nd, 0 outs, Moose K's, Duda K's

Against Andrew ****ing Miller. Not surprising really. Cutty got ****ed though.

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:52 PM

Any reason why you wouldn't pinch-run Orlando here?

siberian khatru 04-06-2018 04:56 PM

Well, the Royals had their opportunities as they continue their annoying habit of busting out in the 1st and then doing squat the rest of the way.

Good pitching outside the 1st, that's a positive.

Chiefspants 04-06-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13506145)
Cutty lined out. Strike 2 was the BS one.

Scratch that, I’m watching behind.

Deberg_1990 04-06-2018 05:36 PM

I hate early April baseball in northern cities. The players look like they are dressed for the Iditarod race.

ChiefsCountry 04-06-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13506219)
I hate early April baseball in northern cities. The players look like they are dressed for the Iditarod race.

Royals should have stayed in the AL West.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 04-12-2018 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13396403)
Jorge Soler better play EVERY SINGLE DAY. Yes he will be atrocious on the field. But he has a chance to become OFFENSIVELY close to Aaron Judge. He probably won't. But he could.

Aaron Judge AAA 2016 OPS .854 (at 24 yrs old)
Jorge Soler AAA 2017 OPS .952 (at 24-25 yrs old)

ROFL

Chiefspants 04-12-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 13514611)
ROFL

Come laugh at the end of the season. We don't want to give up on someone like that one team did with JD Martinez.

duncan_idaho 04-13-2018 06:37 AM

Speaking of Jose Altuve, read a little this morning about a similarly pint-sized 2B in the Royals system.

Rudy Martin is 5-7. Fairly meh career thus far but has good speed and has consistently shown a knack for getting on base.

He’s at Wilmington this year, so he will be easy to follow (as Rivera and Lee are both there).

He apparently has a little pop. If he can keep getting on base and swiping bags, could become a legit prospect.

siberian khatru 04-13-2018 12:33 PM

Was not aware he had an option:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals option Brandon Maurer, call up Kevin McCarthy.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/984861202084974593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Why Not? 04-13-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13515337)
Was not aware he had an option:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals option Brandon Maurer, call up Kevin McCarthy.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/984861202084974593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thank F'ing God!


Edit: oh shit, was that filter evasion?

RealSNR 04-13-2018 01:29 PM

McCarthy wasn't the worst thing last year. Why in the world didn't we do this earlier?

I mean, come on. Did we really lose anything in that trade to the Padres? We gave them crap in Travis Wood, and they gave us crap right back in Maurer. Why not just accept it as crap-for-crap and get rid of the crap?

tk13 04-13-2018 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13515406)
McCarthy wasn't the worst thing last year. Why in the world didn't we do this earlier?

I mean, come on. Did we really lose anything in that trade to the Padres? We gave them crap in Travis Wood, and they gave us crap right back in Maurer. Why not just accept it as crap-for-crap and get rid of the crap?

Matt Strahm.

siberian khatru 04-13-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13515528)
Matt Strahm.

Esteury Ruiz

Prison Bitch 06-20-2018 11:35 AM

Hey DJ Nuts!
 
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13327707)
Rubbish^

Take away his 2015 season and re-check the numbers. He's been very good but not even close to HoF. His career OPS+ is 140, but without 2015 it's 126. That's really good but HoF? Not even close bro.


Here's his top BBRef comp: JD Martinez. Here's his top "thru age 24" sim score: Andruw Jones. (Of his top 10 only 3 made the Hall: Robinson Aaron Griffey. Ruben Sierra and Justin Upton made it)


His last two years he's (1) farted out a piddly 814 OPS in 628 PA, and then he (2) follows up by only playing 111 games.



Harper's 2015 is a sever outlier. I said he was the new Mantle, and better than Trout long term. And I was flat wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13327810)
Oh, I mean if you remove a guy's best season through his early 20's and he's only 26% better than a league average hitter, he's clearly not worth the trouble.

I'm sure as he enters the first year of his prime, he's not going to improve any.

I mean shit man, how disengenuous can you be. "Only 3 of the top 10 made the hall..."

His top 10 - Andruw Jones, who will get close to the Hall but probably not make it due to his bizarre Dale Murphy sort of collapse. Frank Robinson - uh, he's not bad. Upton - a very good player who never approached peak Harper even as he damn near won an MVP at 23. Giancarlo Stanton - if he stays healthy he's hitting 600+ bombs and he'll go in; he's demonstrating clear HoF skills. Sierra - that one admittedly surprises me. Juan Gonzalez - his steroid fueled numbers are what puts him at the level of Harper in his early 20s and if he'd have stayed on the juice he'd have gone in; dude was a monster. do you just not remember the perennial triple crown threat he was on roids? Hank Aaron, Miguel Cabrera, Ken Griffey Jr and Mike Trout. Um...yeah, that's not bad company.

So 4 of them are still active, 3 of them on clear HoF tracks and the 4th is damn good in his own right. One of them was a steroid fueled freak, another suffered one of the more obvious late-career collapses in MLB history. The others are among the best players in baseball history.

You got Ruben Sierra though, I'll give you that.

Harper is a damn monster. He's had 2 seasons with an OPS over 1.000 by 24 years old and his 2016 season was on track to be as good as his '15 (and '17) seasons but/for his shoulder injury. Look at his splits before he got hurt that year. But yeah, he stepped on a wet bag wrong and his damn knee almost exploded in '17 so clearly he's just some flash in the pan.

Seriously, this is almost as stupid as your Arenado idiocy (very little is as stupid as your Arenado idiocy). You just don't know ****-all about National League baseball, do you?



Bryce Harper playing his way out of $400M deal


Harper is now hitting .217/.355/.479 and ranks 53rd out of 159 qualified hitters in wOBA. Look, it has hardly been a disaster of a season. He still leads the National League with 19 home runs, is second in the majors to Mike Trout in walks and is on pace for 98 runs and 102 RBIs.

Nonetheless, $400 million ballplayers sohouldn't hit .217. And remember, this is all after a blazing start in which he hit .315 with eight home runs in his first 17 games. Since then, over two months, he has hit .188/.308/.392.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...llion-contract

suzzer99 06-28-2018 02:36 PM

Bring him in for a look?


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