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Chief Northman 07-11-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344297)
Actually it sounds like she's trying to limit his time

Of course she is.

Her last futile attempts to characterize him as the villain in this whole ordeal. No doubt her legal counsel has put her up to this.

She knows the criminal investigation came up with nothing, he’s had enough of her bullshit and sniffed out her intentions, so these are her “parting shots”.

This is the beginning of the end.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344296)
Lol wtf? Where'd you hear that? I've never heard that ever.

Seems like Sauto logic, you've never heard of it so not must not be true.
Add to the conversations fellas....
Trying to counter everyone is getting really old.
Now he has you doing it.
Remember .... 2+2=4
A squirrel gets 2 acorns, he then gets two more, he now has 4 acorns. He doesnt know math, he doesnt know what numbers are but he still has 4 acorns.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344309)
Seems like Sauto logic, you've never heard of it so not must not be true.
Add to the conversations fellas....
Trying to counter everyone is getting really old.
Now he has you doing it.
Remember .... 2+2=4
A squirrel gets 2 acorns, he then gets two more, he now has 4 acorns. He doesnt know math, he doesnt know what numbers are but he still has 4 acorns.

well do you have a link to it?

That would add to the conversation, more than you doing math over and over. That's for sure.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 08:28 PM

What I hope happens. Tyreek gets full history of Zev. The twins ain’t his. He won’t have to pay child support. Crystal goes to jail. Tyreek sign long term extension. Chiefs win the super bowl.

Chief Northman 07-11-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344300)
I mean, you have no idea what recent events are or if what she did was worse than what he did. Bottom line is that no one really knows what's going on between the two other than them and the DCF workers. Seems like they're both getting time with the boy and that's all we know. Stop believing Marty and the other people on CP thinking they know about her or her family.

:rolleyes:

You said it. Both getting time, but neither exclusively. In other words, they BOTH have work to do. DCF isn’t going to just green light full custody to her given the recent past.
She’s trying to get out in front of something here - that is obvious. The reconciling is OVER.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344290)
Oh. Your post said "her meal ticket is gone, the payment goes to an auditor "

I guess I missed where she had been found guilty of extortion, or even charged...

They werent married, money is involved by possible extortion.
I never said it as a fact I said it as a possibility.
A court allowing access to funds deemed for child care which surely could or would be misappropriated are handled by an outside source.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344317)
They werent married, money is involved by possible extortion.
I never said it as a fact I said it as a possibility.
A court allowing access to funds deemed for child care which surely could or would be misappropriated are handled by an outside source.

I've never seen child support handled by an outside source.

I mean it's supposed to go to housing and things like that. She's getting a meal ticket if they are all his.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344313)
well do you have a link to it?

That would add to the conversation, more than you doing math over and over. That's for sure.

Link to what exactly? I threw out a hypothesis and things that pertain to such cases.
This thread was great for a few days while you were away....

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344321)
I've never seen child support handled by an outside source.

I mean it's supposed to go to housing and things like that. She's getting a meal ticket if they are all his.

Link?

TEX 07-11-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344309)
Seems like Sauto logic, you've never heard of it so not must not be true.
Add to the conversations fellas....
Trying to counter everyone is getting really old.
Now he has you doing it.
Remember .... 2+2=4
A squirrel gets 2 acorns, he then gets two more, he now has 4 acorns. He doesnt know math, he doesnt know what numbers are but he still has 4 acorns.

ROFL

You should not assume that he knows what an acorn is...

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 08:32 PM

Tyreek will have to pay more child support if the twins are his and if he signs long term. She would have to sign a petition for modification

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14344316)
:rolleyes:

You said it. Both getting time, but neither exclusively. In other words, they BOTH have work to do. DCF isn’t going to just green light full custody to her given the recent past.
She’s trying to get out in front of something here - that is obvious. The reconciling is OVER.

Actually I don't think the new kids have anything to do with the issue over the older child.

People have more kids after losing older children every day and keep the younger ones until they **** up again

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14344327)
Tyreek will have to pay more child support if the twins are his and if he signs long term. She would have to sign a petition for modification

Yeah no doubt he will have to pay pretty big child support.
But they werent married and he has no obligation for alimony does he?

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344322)
Link to what exactly? I threw out a hypothesis and things that pertain to such cases.
This thread was great for a few days while you were away....

Is it that difficult to show your work?

I mean, if what you say is so easy a caveman could understand it, wouldn't you be able to quickly cite some examples? Give a link to a similar case?

Or is it just easier to spout shit off and hope no one calls you on it?

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344322)
Link to what exactly? I threw out a hypothesis and things that pertain to such cases.
This thread was great for a few days while you were away....

A link to where an extortion case ended up with child support getting doled out like that.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344324)
Link?

What else would child support be used for?

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344330)
Is it that difficult to show your work?

I mean, if what you say is so easy a caveman could understand it, wouldn't yo be able to quickly cite some examples? Give a link to a similar case?

Or is it just easier to spout shit off and hope no one calls you on it?

I missed you ROFL

-King- 07-11-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344309)
Seems like Sauto logic, you've never heard of it so not must not be true.
Add to the conversations fellas....
Trying to counter everyone is getting really old.
Now he has you doing it.
Remember .... 2+2=4
A squirrel gets 2 acorns, he then gets two more, he now has 4 acorns. He doesnt know math, he doesnt know what numbers are but he still has 4 acorns.

See that's why he seems like an asshole. You guys can't just claim something and then when asked to prove it you make posts like this one. All you have to do is provide a link or some kind of proof. It shouldn't be hard to prove something you're claiming as fact.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344329)
Yeah no doubt he will have to pay pretty big child support.
But they werent married and he has no obligation for alimony does he?

I don't think so.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344334)
I missed you ROFL

You know I typically take most the offseason off, and I've been on vacation playing golf.

But all this nonsense is like a 35 car pileup on the interstate - I just can't look away.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 08:36 PM

https://www.rhart.com/blog/am-i-stil...wasnt-married/

Yep everything Crystal did today was so that they could calculate how much child support Tyreek will have to pay

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344330)
Is it that difficult to show your work?

I mean, if what you say is so easy a caveman could understand it, wouldn't yo be able to quickly cite some examples? Give a link to a similar case?

Or is it just easier to spout shit off and hope no one calls you on it?

Calls me on what? That I'm throwing thoughts out there? I've never said anything as fact.
I'm also not posting personal information from my own family who had an outside source handle child support due to a mother spending child support money on drugs , once completed the probation and turned her life around and got custody back she was still not given the option of being handed a check from the father.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 08:37 PM

https://www.divorcesource.com/ds/kan...ort-4596.shtml

Here's that link though.

See how easy it is when you aren't pulling something out of your ass

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 08:38 PM

He does not have to pay alimony since they were never legally married

-King- 07-11-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14344316)
:rolleyes:

You said it. Both getting time, but neither exclusively. In other words, they BOTH have work to do. DCF isn’t going to just green light full custody to her given the recent past.
She’s trying to get out in front of something here - that is obvious. The reconciling is OVER.

Yes, eventually one of them will get custody most likely her because the mother gets custody most of the time. She's trying to make sure by the time this is settled, the parenting and child support issues are settled to. It's smart. If you were her lawyer, wouldn't you be advising her to do this too? Or would you tell her to wait to file for custody and child support?

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344343)
Yes, eventually one of them will get custody most likely her because the mother gets custody most of the time. She's trying to make sure by the time this is settled, the parenting and child support issues are settled to. It's smart. If you were her lawyer, wouldn't you be advising her to do this too? Or would you tell her to wait to file for custody and child support?

Most cases yes the mother gets custody. This isn't most cases. Many of the posts you and Sauto seem to have trouble getting is a lot of are posting with the thought that custody isnt a gimme for her if the extortion stuff is true and results in possibly jail time

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344340)
Calls me on what? That I'm throwing thoughts out there? I've never said anything as fact.
I'm also not posting personal information from my own family who had an outside source handle child support due to a mother spending child support money on drugs , once completed the probation and turned her life around and got custody back she was still not given the option of being handed a check from the father.

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344286)
In many cases especially of extortion where the extorted is also the main custodian the father still has requirement of child support.
The court mandates what the funds go to. Care for the child. Not lavish lifestyles or expensive purses.

Sorry, bruh. But that doesn't sound like someone throwing out an idea.

"In many cases...?"

"The court mandates...?"


And good job not posting that personal information.

Basically, you tried to take your own personal experience and turn it into case law/precedent. And you're STILL arguing as if you know these laws for fact, re: post 2586.

Yikes.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:43 PM

If it's hard to realize why context is important after all this than yes a lot of these posts seem off the wall. In context lots of them make perfect sense. Think outside the box a little, sure would have helped KK and KCTV5

-King- 07-11-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344344)
Most cases yes the mother gets custody. This isn't most cases. Many of the posts you and Sauto seem to have trouble getting is a lot of are posting with the thought that custody isnt a gimme for her if the extortion stuff is true and results in possibly jail time

And you seem to have trouble understanding that Marty is the only one who has brought up extortion at all and he isn't the most reliable source.



Can we just agree to go off info we all know to be true or to go off what Terez has reported because he's the only reliable reporter in all of this. Until he says anything about the FBI investigating Chrystal for extortion, can we all assume it's bullshit because it most likely is?

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344348)
And you seem to have trouble understanding that Marty is the only one who has brought up extortion at all and he isn't the most reliable source.



Can we just agree to go off info we all know to be true or to go off what Terez has reported because he's the only reliable reporter in all of this. Until he says anything about the FBI investigating Chrystal for extortion, can we all assume it's bullshit because it most likely is?

I am quoting this post to show my agreement with it.

Sincerely,

OTW15

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344348)
And you seem to have trouble understanding that Marty is the only one who has brought up extortion at all and he isn't the most reliable source.



Can we just agree to go off info we all know to be true or to go off what Terez has reported because he's the only reliable reporter in all of this. Until he says anything about the FBI investigating Chrystal for extortion, can we all assume it's bullshit because it most likely is?

Because he has been wrong on more than he has been right? ...

Mulliganman 07-11-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14344315)
What I hope happens. Tyreek gets full history of Zev. The twins ain’t his. He won’t have to pay child support. Crystal goes to jail. Tyreek sign long term extension. Chiefs win the super bowl.

I’m sorry but it makes no sense for her to force a test about the children’s father if she didn’t know without a doubt he is when she is seeking child support from him.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344355)
Because he has been wrong on more than he has been right? ...

Who?

Chief Northman 07-11-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344343)
Yes, eventually one of them will get custody most likely her because the mother gets custody most of the time. She's trying to make sure by the time this is settled, the parenting and child support issues are settled to. It's smart. If you were her lawyer, wouldn't you be advising her to do this too? Or would you tell her to wait to file for custody and child support?

What do I care?

All I know is that those photos/videos of Crystal/Tyreek entering court hand in hand did not age well.

She blinked.

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344348)
And you seem to have trouble understanding that Marty is the only one who has brought up extortion at all and he isn't the most reliable source.

Soren Petro mentioned the Espinals might be trying to frame Hill.

What do you suppose their motive is, genious?!

Tim Grunhard mentioned Tyreek as a potential victim.

How do you think he could be a victim, genious?

ROFL

You are all wilfully ignorant about this because Marty has become the Tyreek Hill of this forum.

You are all fake news.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344363)
Soren Petro mentioned the Espinals might be trying to frame Hill.

What do you suppose their motive is, genious?!

Tim Grunhard mentioned Tyreek as a potential victim.

How do you think he could be a victim, genious?

ROFL

You are all wilfully ignorant about this because Marty has become the Tyreek Hill of this forum.

You are all fake news.

I am quoting this post to show my agreement with it.

Sincerely,
L

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulliganman (Post 14344357)
I’m sorry but it makes no sense for her to force a test about the children’s father if she didn’t know without a doubt he is when she is seeking child support from him.

The reasoning behind the petition has already been established.

https://www.kansaslegalservices.org/...ternity-action

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A paternity suit is brought when a Court order is needed to identify the father of a child. This legal action allows the court to order child support and make orders about parenting time. Paternity issues may arise under some of the following circumstances:

When the child is born to unmarried people and the mother is seeking child support;

When the child is born to unmarried people and the state is seeking current or past due child support;

When the child is born to unmarried people and the man is seeking to prove that he is the father of that child.

Doesn’t signing a birth certificate take the place of a paternity action?

Having the father sign a birth certificate is one of the things that creates a presumption of paternity. However, a court action is still needed so that agreements or Court orders about child support and parenting time can be made and enforced.

TEX 07-11-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344363)
Soren Petro mentioned the Espinals might be trying to frame Hill.

What do you suppose their motive is, genious?!

Tim Grunhard mentioned Tyreek as a potential victim.

How do you think he could be a victim, genious?

ROFL

You are all wilfully ignorant about this because Marty has become the Tyreek Hill of this forum.

You are all fake news.

:clap:
Very well said sir!
Lot's of geniuses here - With links and everything... LMAO

-King- 07-11-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344355)
Because he has been wrong on more than he has been right? ...

What has he been right about?

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344363)
Soren Petro mentioned the Espinals might be trying to frame Hill.

What do you suppose their motive is, genious?!

Tim Grunhard mentioned Tyreek as a potential victim.

How do you think he could be a victim, genious?

ROFL

You are all wilfully ignorant about this because Marty has become the Tyreek Hill of this forum.

You are all fake news.

Dude, I understand you're going to defend your boy...

But "mentioning" and SCREAMING FROM THE ROOFTOPS are two different things. If there was any EVIDENCE then Petro, Grunhard, Paylor, Shefter, etc. would be using their platforms to talk about it.

Petro would be talking about NOTHING ELSE on his show.

But he mentioned it in passing as speculation.

I'm not willfully ignorant, I'm just not taking the word of an armchair reporter when he's the only person taking this stance. Like I said, if for some reason Terez got scooped by a month by a little league baseball coach, I'll get in line and give him his due.

EDIT: And I'll lose a ton of respect for Paylor - a full time, professional reporter - for getting beat to a story by a month by a dude who works a full time job and coaches LL baseball.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344369)
The reasoning behind the petition has already been established.

https://www.kansaslegalservices.org/...ternity-action

Use your head man. That's what the states site says, that's not necessarily her intention.
If you read the tweet about her wanting to gain some custody and limit visitation youd be able to surmise that it's a preemptive measure to gather leverage for later. She didnt have to file it, unless it was court ordered or there was a question of the father there would be no reason for her to ask for it unless Tyreek was saying they werent his.
That's possible, but as of yet there is no indication he has said anything to that.

Mulliganman 07-11-2019 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344369)
The reasoning behind the petition has already been established.

https://www.kansaslegalservices.org/...ternity-action

Thank you. Should have quoted the link. There may be or have been an ex boyfriend involved but that’s obviously not the reason for the test

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:00 PM

They can't report these things right now because their sources told them not to.

They can only allude to it.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344381)
They can't report these things right now because their sources told them not to.

They can only allude to it.

C'mon, man.

Mulliganman 07-11-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344381)
They can't report these things right now because their sources told them not to.

They can only allude to it.

I hope for credibility sake that turns out to be the case, but this sounds a lot like some of the early tweets by STAR reporters acting like they had some smoking gun...

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 09:04 PM

What happened to Tyreek meeting with Roger today

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14344388)
What happened to Tyreek meeting with Roger today

EVERYONE IS ON DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:07 PM

Sources: Here you go Mr. Amateur Armchair Reporter! Please take this info and put it on the Interwebs!

Also sources: Hey, national professional reporter dudes - y'all have to sit on this, brah.


Makes a ton of sense.

O.city 07-11-2019 09:08 PM

“We hated it when the Other side was doing it but when our side implies something well trust that they just have more info they can’t release”

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14344393)
“We hated it when the Other side was doing it but when our side implies something well trust that they just have more info they can’t release”

No shit.

FAX 07-11-2019 09:10 PM

For the purposes of clarity ...

An acorn is an oak tree seed.

FAX

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:10 PM

Actually I'll be honest, I want the twins to be his. And her to lose custody.

Those kids need to be with Tyreek and he needs to grow up and learn to be a responsible adult.

This is the best possible outcome for all parties involved.

FAX 07-11-2019 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344366)
I am quoting this post to show my agreement with it.

Sincerely,
L

That should be the lower-case "l".

FAX

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344392)
Sources: Here you go Mr. Amateur Armchair Reporter! Please take this info and put it on the Interwebs!

Also sources: Hey, national professional reporter dudes - y'all have to sit on this, brah.


Makes a ton of sense.

It's likely not the same sources. Stuff gets funneled down through different channels.

Do you think it is coincidence that we have two different people spreading rumors about FBI now? Over a month apart?

And there is probably not enough hard evidence for it, so the other guys aren't allowed to run with it because of their editors.

Marty has no oversight.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulliganman (Post 14344357)
I’m sorry but it makes no sense for her to force a test about the children’s father if she didn’t know without a doubt he is when she is seeking child support from him.

Exactly.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344404)
It's likely not the same sources. Stuff gets funneled down through different channels.

Do you think it is coincidence that we have two different people spreading rumors about FBI now? Over a month apart?

And there is probably not enough hard evidence for it, so the other guys aren't allowed to run with it because of their editors.

Marty has no oversight.

Where has there been any oversight in any of this?

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344404)
It's likely not the same sources. Stuff gets funneled down through different channels.

Do you think it is coincidence that we have two different people spreading rumors about FBI now? Over a month apart?

And there is probably not enough hard evidence for it, so the other guys aren't allowed to run with it because of their editors.

Marty has no oversight.

If I have inside information to leak that would blow the top off of one of the biggest stories in years, while at the same time would exonerate one of my employees/teammates/favorite team's athlete who would I give said information to?

Someone who no one will believe?

Someone who EVERYONE will believe?

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14344403)
That should be the lower-case "l".

FAX

My bad ... I.... or is that an I .... I better get a link

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344378)
Use your head man. That's what the states site says, that's not necessarily her intention.
If you read the tweet about her wanting to gain some custody and limit visitation youd be able to surmise that it's a preemptive measure to gather leverage for later. She didnt have to file it, unless it was court ordered or there was a question of the father there would be no reason for her to ask for it unless Tyreek was saying they werent his.
That's possible, but as of yet there is no indication he has said anything to that.

There's always a question of paternity. In every case

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344415)
There's always a question of paternity. In every case

Only if there is reason to question it. Which was kind of his point.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344416)
Only if there is reason to question it. Which was kind of his point.

Well a reason to question it could be that he didn't sign the birth certificate, which would also give them her last name at this point(been reported already too)

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344340)
Calls me on what? That I'm throwing thoughts out there? I've never said anything as fact.
I'm also not posting personal information from my own family who had an outside source handle child support due to a mother spending child support money on drugs , once completed the probation and turned her life around and got custody back she was still not given the option of being handed a check from the father.

Spending money on drugs usually means the children werent fed or taken care of.

That's way different than this case at this point. No one has said the child wanted for anything.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344419)
Well a reason to question it could be that he didn't sign the birth certificate, which would also give them her last name at this point(been reported already too)

SHE filed it. as far as we know there was no argument from Hill that he was the father.
Did your father take a DNA test when you were born? Or did it just not be deemed necessary because all parties involved knew....

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344412)
If I have inside information to leak that would blow the top off of one of the biggest stories in years, while at the same time would exonerate one of my employees/teammates/favorite team's athlete who would I give said information to?

It wouldn't blow it off because there's no hard proof. No screenshots or e-mails or anything. It's just someone leaking information. It's words.

Words that are becoming more and more verified as accurate as time goes by.

Words like "Scott Pioli is definitely getting fired" when everyone else swore he was getting an extension.

Want to see how crafty the Espinals were, spinning their narrative? Do a little research.

https://i.imgur.com/V6VHJCx.jpg

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:26 PM

Goddamn, people. The court won't order child support until a paternity test is completed.

In other words, he's cut her off, and she's getting the ball rolling so she can cash in.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-s...paternity.aspx

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Unmarried Parents

When a child is born to unmarried parents, a legal relationship between the father and child must be established before a court or administrative authority will order child support. This legal relationship is called paternity. Establishing paternity for a child born out of wedlock not only provides a legal relationship but also provides a child with access to emotional and financial support from their noncustodial parent including:

Important interactions and relationships with both parents.
Access to child support and to federal benefits such as Social Security benefits.
Medical insurance and health information.
Legal Establishment of Paternity

There are two ways states can establish paternity legally:

Voluntary acknowledgment by the parent, or
State-established legal processes, which often include genetic testing.
He hasn't signed the birth certificate, which would be voluntary acknowledgment. Therefore, she's petitioning for the test so the court can establish support, as well as visitation.

SAUTO 07-11-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344422)
SHE filed it. as far as we know there was no argument from Hill that he was the father.
Did your father take a DNA test when you were born? Or did it just not be deemed necessary because all parties involved knew....

Yeah. If he had signed off there couldn't be a question. The court proceedings would be about custody child support and visitation, not paternity.

Read the link...

And my dad was there and signed. When I was born.

Tyreek, understandably, probably wasn't there, and if I was him I wouldn't sign either.

But he's not in a hurry to start paying child support, who would be? She's wanting to get it rolling. Most moms are.

-King- 07-11-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344423)
It wouldn't blow it off because there's no hard proof. No screenshots or e-mails or anything. It's just someone leaking information. It's words.

Words that are becoming more and more verified as accurate as time goes by.

Words like "Scott Pioli is definitely getting fired" when everyone else swore he was getting an extension.

Want to see how crafty the Espinals were, spinning their narrative? Do a little research.

https://i.imgur.com/V6VHJCx.jpg

They were so crafty they forgot to wait until AFTER Tyreek got paid to "extort" him.

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:30 PM

The kids have her last name, BTW.

Their plan is take the kids, the money, and RUN and just try to keep the child support gravy train flowing and stay as far away from Tyreek as possible so it's harder and harder for him to get custody. Shit, they might make a break for Mexico.

They want to steal Tyreek's kids from him. The whole family stayed in KC until now for this very purpose.

Won't work. Rosenhaus lawyers are going to drop the hammer on these ****s.

This is going to be GLORIOUS.

I hope they try to escape in a White Ford Bronco.

Cheetah's fasterthanya.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath15;14344426]Goddamn, people. The court won't order child support until a paternity test is completed.

In other words, he's cut her off, and she's getting the ball rolling so she can cash in.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-s...paternity.aspx



Talk to her personally or just throwing that out there? Without a link to her personally saying that's the reason your whole grandstanding is now a little childish

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14344431)
They were so crafty they forgot to wait until AFTER Tyreek got paid to "extort" him.

You still don't get it.

Reek was already forking over money to these criminals. He decided to end the gravy train. They made an illicit recording, told him 'stay with her or else.' He called the bluff, they played their game, the truth came out, now the lawyers are sharpening their axes.

These people are pathetic, ignorant, stupid, shortsighted and malicious criminals.

And it's time to bring the hammer DOWN.

-King- 07-11-2019 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344434)
You still don't get it.

Reek was already forking over money to these criminals. He decided to end the gravy train. They made an illicit recording, told him 'stay with her or else.' He called the bluff, they played their game, the truth came out, now the lawyers are sharpening their axes.

These people are pathetic, ignorant, stupid, shortsighted and malicious criminals.

And it's time to bring the hammer DOWN.

My bad, I accidentally replied to you. I know your schtick, keep doing your thing

Hammock Parties 07-11-2019 09:37 PM

This is not schtick. I know more than you.

I know the Espinals couldn't even pay their property taxes last year.

Guess who paid them.

And you wonder why they did this.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=Lprechaun;14344433]
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344426)
Goddamn, people. The court won't order child support until a paternity test is completed.

In other words, he's cut her off, and she's getting the ball rolling so she can cash in.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-s...paternity.aspx



Talk to her personally or just throwing that out there? Without a link to her personally saying that's the reason your whole grandstanding is now a little childish

Throwing THE LAW out there?

Yep.

She literally cannot do ANYTHING regarding the twins until either a test is conducted, or Tyreek signs the birth certificate.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344378)
Use your head man. That's what the states site says, that's not necessarily her intention.
If you read the tweet about her wanting to gain some custody and limit visitation youd be able to surmise that it's a preemptive measure to gather leverage for later. She didnt have to file it, unless it was court ordered or there was a question of the father there would be no reason for her to ask for it unless Tyreek was saying they werent his.
That's possible, but as of yet there is no indication he has said anything to that.

Bold1: Which she CANNOT DO until either Tyreek signs the BC or is proven to be the father by paternity testing.

Bold2: She DID have to file it if she wanted to establish custody, child support and visitation because at this point, Tyreek isn't LEGALLY the twins father because he hasn't signed the BC, or taken a paternity test.

Intentional or not, by not signing the birth certificate, Tyreek has made the petition a necessity.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath15;14344443]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344433)

Throwing THE LAW out there?

Yep.

She literally cannot do ANYTHING regarding the twins until either a test is conducted, or Tyreek signs the birth certificate.




Bold1: Which she CANNOT DO until either Tyreek signs the BC or is proven to be the father by paternity testing.

Bold2: She DID have to file it if she wanted to establish custody, child support and visitation because at this point, Tyreek isn't LEGALLY the twins father because he hasn't signed the BC, or taken a paternity test.

Intentional or not, by not signing the birth certificate, Tyreek has made the petition a necessity.

But did SHE tell you this or is this your assumption.... could be anything right? Isnt that what you want all of us to curtail to?
I'm just using your logic here

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=Lprechaun;14344445]
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344443)

But did SHE tell you this or is this your assumption.... could be anything right? Isnt that what you want all of us to curtail to?
I'm just using your logic here

It's not an assumption. Read the law.

You know, with the evidence/link I provided.

Chief Northman 07-11-2019 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344442)
This is not schtick. I know more than you.

I know the Espinals couldn't even pay their property taxes last year.

Guess who paid them.

And you wonder why they did this.

BOOM.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:45 PM

And people are claiming that SAUTO has been the problem in this thread?

Holy shitsnacks.

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344442)
This is not schtick. I know more than you.

I know the Espinals couldn't even pay their property taxes last year.

Guess who paid them.

And you wonder why they did this.

Then lay it out there. Show your work.

Otherwise, you're both full of shit.

For a month, you've both been throwing out these "bombshells" without any legitimate evidence. Like we're just supposed to believe you.

I mean, I ****ed a supermodel last night. But I can't prove it. But you definitely should believe me.

007 07-11-2019 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344452)
Then lay it out there. Show your work.

Otherwise, you're both full of shit.

For a month, you've both been throwing out these "bombshells" without any legitimate evidence. Like we're just supposed to believe you.

I mean, I ****ed a supermodel last night. But I can't prove it. But you definitely should believe me.

LINK?

OnTheWarpath15 07-11-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14344455)
LINK?

Nope, you're just gonna have to trust me.

TMZ knows about it but they aren't allowed to report on it.


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