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the Talking Can 12-12-2012 01:18 PM

i am not a fan of jones, and think he will go too high...but if you could get him at value in the 4th or later, he'd be a pretty good long term backup...

Rugby Thompson 12-12-2012 01:20 PM

Geno or nothing. None of the other QB's intrigue me, this was a weird college season.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202667)
i've not seen a single snap of this guy

is he a 2nd/3rd round QB or a 4th/5th round QB?

Stiff, happy feet, and he has a funky windup delivery.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-12-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9202612)
I'm reposting this because it's the most relevant goddamn stat in the whole goddamn thread.

http://i.imgur.com/LmWbK.png

Change my name to Barkley's Reckoning, bitch. (not really)

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

If fans would realize just one thing about the draft, it's this: College stats mean nothing when it comes to predicting NFL success

htismaqe 12-12-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9202701)
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

If fans would realize just one thing about the draft, it's this: College stats mean nothing when it comes to predicting NFL success

Matt Miller has said repeatedly on the radio that the Chiefs should take Geno Smith.

His co-workers at TBR agree:

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Geno Smith Must Become a Chief
BY BRIAN MAZIQUE

The Kansas City Chiefs must take the standout from West Virginia if they hold on to the top pick in the draft. The way they've played this season makes it seem like they will "beat" out the Jacksonville Jaguars in the race for ultimate futility.

Even if the Jaguars finish with a worse record, the Chiefs need to do whatever they have to do to take the top prospect at QB.

This team is likely to bring in a new coaching staff—as is customary when you lose 11-plus games—and the offense is the obvious unit in need. The defense is not a horrible group. They are middle of the pack in yards allowed at 16th through Week 14.

Their numbers would be a little better if their offense wasn't so pitiful. The Chiefs have thrown for only eight touchdown passes all season.

That won't cut it.

Smith's season tailed off a bit later in the year, but there is no doubt about his prospects as an NFL quarterback. He still completed 71.4 percent of his passes and averaged 333.4 passing yards per game.

The Chiefs need to bring in their new leader with a new coaching regime.
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2013 NFL Mock Draft: Round 1, Week 15 Edition
BY RYAN MCCRYSTAL

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, West Virginia

Geno Smith has established himself as the top draft-eligible quarterback, which makes him the heavy favorite to be the No. 1 selection in the upcoming NFL draft.

It's tough to imagine Scott Pioli passing on Smith given the dreadful quarterback play the Chiefs have suffered through in recent years, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't strongly consider the possibility.

If Smith were entering this class along with the 2012 quarterbacks, I'm not certain he would even be in the top-10 discussion. But this is a quarterback-driven league and the Chiefs' hand may be forced in this situation.
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2013 NFL Mock Draft: Fresh Selections for Entire First-Round
BY JOHN ROZUM

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB (West Virginia)

The Kansas City Chiefs sit with a minus-21 turnover differential and present a dire quarterback situation in Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn.

On the bright side, currently sporting a 1-9 record increases the odds of landing West Virginia's Geno Smith. With a 70.1 completion percentage and 35 touchdown passes to just five picks, Smith's decision-making alone will improving Kansas City's offense.

As a result, K.C. then offers a bit more balance with Jamaal Charles still slamming well on the ground.

Sorter 12-12-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202667)
i've not seen a single snap of this guy

is he a 2nd/3rd round QB or a 4th/5th round QB?

IMO, he's my 3rd QB after Geno and Wilson. Great release, great movement w/in the pocket, does get happy feet though. Has played pretty well against good teams and has been pretty clutch.

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htismaqe 12-12-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9202733)
IMO, he's my 3rd QB after Geno and Wilson. Great release, great movement w/in the pocket, does get happy feet though. Has played pretty well against good teams and has been pretty clutch.

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Odd release. Downward push, almost like a weird upside-down shotput.

BossChief 12-12-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9202701)
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

If fans would realize just one thing about the draft, it's this: College stats mean nothing when it comes to predicting NFL success

Part of that is true, no doubt...but some do tell you what the kid is made of.

Completion percentage isn't an all telling stat by any means as a singular entity, but when you take ypa and td:int and figure in comp% it will give you a good idea how impressive those numbers are.

Then you look at how those numbers changed once he faced better teams and you know more...then you dig a little deeper to see how he did in "clutch situations" and you get a better feel for indicators on how he will do at the next level.

Essentially, that's what the chart does and to discredit it is straight up silly

Also, I think Stanzi matches up well statistically to the better guys on that chart....but I digress.

Sorter 12-12-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9202737)
Odd release. Downward push, almost like a weird upside-down shotput.

Odd motion. The ball gets out of his hands fast though.

htismaqe 12-12-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9202743)
Part of that is true, no doubt...but some do tell you what the kid is made of.

Completion percentage isn't an all telling stat by any means as a singular entity, but when you take ypa and td:int and figure in comp% it will give you a good idea how impressive those numbers are.

Then you look at how those numbers changed once he faced better teams and you know more...then you dig a little deeper to see how he did in "clutch situations" and you get a better feel for indicators on how he will do at the next level.

Essentially, that's what the chart does and to discredit it is straight up silly

Also, I think Stanzi matches up well statistically to the better guys on that chart....but I digress.

He posted that Tweet from Matt Miller because he thinks it strengthens the case against taking Smith #1 overall.

Except that Miller is on the radio in KC every week and has said repeatedly that he thinks the Chiefs should take Smith...

Sorter 12-12-2012 01:51 PM

IMO, Nassib looks like a guy who is trying to emulate Peyton (in regards to his happy feet, only Nassib over-exaggerates it). DOn't really have a + or- about that. Players do that all the time. I do think if he settles his feet more, his deep accuracy improves significantly. Still gets good rotation with his hips though.

Just so people aren't confused, this is who want if Geno/Wilson were gone. To be fair, I haven't watched any film of Dysert and limited on Glennon.

the Talking Can 12-12-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9202733)
IMO, he's my 3rd QB after Geno and Wilson. Great release, great movement w/in the pocket, does get happy feet though. Has played pretty well against good teams and has been pretty clutch.

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whoever did his highlights did him no favors...the first 3 mins are incomplete passes intercut with sacks and an int...doesn't complete a pass longer than 10 yards till 3:20


i will be curious to see the bowl game

he does a fast release and plenty of arm strength

-King- 12-12-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202778)
whoever did his highlights did him no favors...the first 3 mins are incomplete passes intercut with sacks and an int...doesn't complete a pass longer than 10 yards till 3:20


i will be curious to see the bowl game

he does a fast release and plenty of arm strength

It's not a highlight tape.

silver5liter 12-12-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202778)
whoever did his highlights did him no favors...the first 3 mins are incomplete passes intercut with sacks and an int...doesn't complete a pass longer than 10 yards till 3:20


i will be curious to see the bowl game

he does a fast release and plenty of arm strength

Not a highlight tape, its an every snap tape. Thats what i generally watch on geno. Geno is going to be a player. Now my only fear is us passing on him.

the Talking Can 12-12-2012 02:25 PM

got it...i was laughing to myself thinking someone doesn't understand the term 'highlights'


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