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silver5liter 12-12-2012 02:35 PM

can someone make a geno gif thread?

Chiefnj2 12-12-2012 03:00 PM

FWIW,

Daniel Jeremiah attended the Manning Academy last summer and came away with the opinion that Bray was the best prospect of the bunch. He says good things about the other QB's also (including Barkley and Smith).
http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/unca...academy-29294/

Titty Meat 12-12-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202917)
FWIW,

Daniel Jeremiah attended the Manning Academy last summer and came away with the opinion that Bray was the best prospect of the bunch. He says good things about the other QB's also (including Barkley and Smith).
http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/unca...academy-29294/

Bray is way too immature handing him the keys to the franchise would be a huge mistake.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9202701)
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

If fans would realize just one thing about the draft, it's this: College stats mean nothing when it comes to predicting NFL success

Oh yeah, Peyton Manning's 89 TD, 33 INT and 11,000 yards meant nothing!

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 03:23 PM

Eli Manning threw for 10,000 yards and 81 TD in college, but that was not an indicator of his future success!!!!

Ben Roethlisberger's 10,829 yards and 84 TD? WORTHLESS!

Andrew Luck's 9,430 yards and 82 TD? Meh.

Titty Meat 12-12-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9202991)
Eli Manning threw for 10,000 yards and 81 TD in college, but that was not an indicator of his future success!!!!

Ben Roethlisberger's 10,829 yards and 84 TD? WORTHLESS!

Andrew Luck's 9,430 yards and 82 TD? Meh.

David Klinger.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 03:29 PM

I'm not saying college stats are the be-all end-all of scouting. Obviously Kliff Kingsbury was a joke of an NFL QB despite huge college stats.

But to say they mean nothing is silly.

You take Geno's stats and then watch him play and watch him make NFL throws...and you have a pretty damn good prospect.

And the fact his numbers only got better and better...and he never regressed....also says a lot.

Titty Meat 12-12-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9203005)
I'm not saying college stats are the be-all end-all of scouting. Obviously Kliff Kingsbury was a joke of an NFL QB despite huge college stats.

But to say they mean nothing is silly.

You take Geno's stats and then watch him play and watch him make NFL throws...and you have a pretty damn good prospect.

And the fact his numbers only got better and better...and he never regressed....also says a lot.

Geno is the #1 QB right now but I think Tyler Wilson could be by April too. Geno has all the tools no doubt but I want to see how he translates playing under center. The spread has hurt some of these guys.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9203044)
Geno is the #1 QB right now but I think Tyler Wilson could be by April too. Geno has all the tools no doubt but I want to see how he translates playing under center. The spread has hurt some of these guys.

Agree completely, and as I said, it's 1A and 1B for me.

Chris Meck 12-12-2012 03:51 PM

I agree. Barkley has not helped himself this season.

I think Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson would be the two I think.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-12-2012 03:54 PM

If we slip to 3rd it's going to be a long ****ing wait till April

O.city 12-12-2012 05:00 PM

Said it once, say it again

If genos defense gets a stop against ou and tcu, they win those games and are at 9 wins and we aren't having all these bullshit conversations

bevischief 12-12-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9203257)
Said it once, say it again

If genos defense gets a stop against ou and tcu, they win those games and are at 9 wins and we aren't having all these bullshit conversations

I agree.

AussieChiefsFan 12-12-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9203257)
Said it once, say it again

If genos defense gets a stop against ou and tcu, they win those games and are at 9 wins and we aren't having all these bullshit conversations

Exactly

RunKC 12-12-2012 06:59 PM

I think some people are clouded by Geno's "wow" throws in college.

There are some serious problems that Geno has IMO.

-He locks onto his 1st read ALL THE TIME. Almost 90% of the time. That is a huge problem. That's not going to work at all in the NFL. Watch tape of him. It's as if he doesn't notice any other receiver but his first read a lot of the time. His eyes are on his 1st read. Think NFL CB's won't notice that?

-He sits in the pocket too long looking for the right play. This goes back to the first point. You can't sit in the pocket for 5 or 6 seconds consistently in the NFL. You'll get sacked.

-He has trouble reading complex defenses. What happens when DC's in the NFL throw mixed coverages/blitzes at him? Will he know what audible to use to counteract what the defense throws at him? Against K State, Texas Tech and TCU he got really confused and struggled mightily against their mixed defenses. He doesn't understand the X's and O's as well as you would like and he's in the shotgun which gives him more space to see the field. What happens when he's in a passing play under center in the NFL and LB's throw mixed blitzes at him?
The NFL is a chess game. Understanding how to react is a vital part of being an NFL QB.


On top of that, he's been in the spread for two years. Yes he did well in his sophomore year, but they still used the shotgun in a lot of situations to maximize his talent.
Spread QB's rarely translate well to the NFL.

People jumped on the Geno bandwagon when he had 24 TD's and 0 INT's. Okay. Who did he play?

Marshall-101st ranked defense out of 120
James Madison-Should they even be considered a defense?
Baylor-119th ranked defense out of 120
Texas-75th ranked defense out of 120

21 of those 24 TD's came against shitty college defenses.


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