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duncan_idaho 07-08-2015 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11586799)
My best educated guess is they will draft a QB in the first 2 rounds of the 2016 draft.

Reid traded McNabb after the season he was 33yrs old. Alex is 31 now so I'd guess he would want to get a replacement in line to groom in the next year.

My best educated guess is that they will never draft a QB in the first 2 rounds. That's what all the evidence suggests.

Bearcat 07-08-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11586777)
They haven't really drafted plenty of QBs, either.

Murray (5th)
Stanzi (5th)
Croyle (3rd)
Killian (7th)
Barnes (4th)
Stenstrom (4th)
Matthews (7th)
Blundin (2nd)

Those are all the QBs we've drafted since 1990.

Holy shit. LMAO


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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11586770)
They've drafted plenty of QBs, they just haven't drafted one in the first round.

So are you saying that Clark is behind his desk somewhere telling everyone they'll be fired if they try to pick a QB in the 1st round?

Is he screening GM and HC candidates by warning them they shall never draft one in the 1st, ever?

Clark looks around at most super bowl winning teams and sees that they have this thing in common, and he says "Nope!"

Come on.

It doesn't have to be a black & white 100% refusal, but they are really good at setting themselves up for failure... when they're really bad, they focus on getting a retread in as quickly as possible to get back to mediocrity, and when they're mediocre, they're focused on at least staying mediocre.

It's only been a trend for 4 freakin' decades...

Titty Meat 07-08-2015 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11586799)
My best educated guess is they will draft a QB in the first 2 rounds of the 2016 draft.

Reid traded McNabb after the season he was 33yrs old. Alex is 31 now so I'd guess he would want to get a replacement in line to groom in the next year.

They will polish the turd known as Aaron Murray

BossChief 07-08-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Billay (Post 11586896)
They will polish the turd known as Aaron Murray

As they should...but with him only under contract through 2017, it would be smart to draft real competition that can compete for the starters role in 2017.

If Murray wins the job, great.

Discuss Thrower 07-08-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11586839)
Holy shit. LMAO




It doesn't have to be a black & white 100% refusal, but they are really good at setting themselves up for failure... when they're really bad, they focus on getting a retread in as quickly as possible to get back to mediocrity, and when they're mediocre, they're focused on at least staying mediocre.

It's only been a trend for 4 freakin' decades...

Dorsey and / or Reid would not have been hired had they told Clark in any sort of interview setting "I (or we) believe in drafting a QB as soon as possible."

The Franchise 07-08-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587137)
Dorsey and / or Reid would not have been hired had they told Clark in any sort of interview setting "I (or we) believe in drafting a QB as soon as possible."

ROFL.....and then they drafted one in their 1st season.

Discuss Thrower 07-08-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11587138)
ROFL.....and then they drafted one in their 1st season.

Umm..

ChiTown 07-08-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11586777)
They haven't really drafted plenty of QBs, either.

Murray (5th)
Stanzi (5th)
Croyle (3rd)
Killian (7th)
Barnes (4th)
Stenstrom (4th)
Matthews (7th)
Blundin (2nd)

Those are all the QBs we've drafted since 1990. 25 years for being as shitty as we have been at the position, and we've only drafted 8 guys throughout the 7 rounds. And half of those are 5th round and later "throwaway" QB picks.

When Alex Smith breaks down and we need a new QB, what are we going to do? Trade for another veteran? Are you going to say, "the sins of the team's past shouldn't hold down the decision making of the current team?"

That's what we said in 2013, and we're still without a first round QB.

Matt Blundin FTMFW!

Our drafting of qb's has been ****ing garbage. I gave up on the Chiefs ever drafting a legit qb a long time ago.

Easy 6 07-08-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11586836)
My best educated guess is that they will never draft a QB in the first 2 rounds. That's what all the evidence suggests.

Considering his collegiate record/conference he played in, it doesn't seem like a stretch to think Murray would've went in the second if he hadn't been injured.

RealSNR 07-08-2015 03:10 PM

Does anybody here really think we'll actually PLAN for life after Alex Smith?

When has this franchise ever ****ing done that, where they planned on the next QB before the last one was out the door?

Answer: NEVER

Clark grew up with the team being run that way. He watched it from his dad. Now he's in charge.

Do you really ****ing think Andy and Dorsey are going to draft a 1st round QB to take over after Alex Smith as early as next year? They've already demonstrated that they value loading up on shitty pass rushers you can find in ANY ****ING DRAFT in Dee Ford. They value drafting those types of players more than they do drafting players like Teddy Bridgewater.

If another Bridgewater falls to us in the draft, do you really think Andy and Dorsey will pull the trigger again when "they're just so close to being a top team in the NFL and need to maintain that success when they let other players walk/retire?"

Of course they ****ing won't.

Now how again are they ****ing different from Marty and Carl? Or Vermeil? Or Pioli with his ****toy Matt?

They're not.

duncan_idaho 07-08-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Billay (Post 11586896)
They will polish the turd known as Aaron Murray

:thumb:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11587224)
Considering his collegiate record/conference he played in, it doesn't seem like a stretch to think Murray would've went in the second if he hadn't been injured.


Discuss Thrower 07-08-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11587554)
Does anybody here really think we'll actually PLAN for life after Alex Smith?

When has this franchise ever ****ing done that, where they planned on the next QB before the last one was out the door?

Answer: NEVER

Clark grew up with the team being run that way. He watched it from his dad. Now he's in charge.

Do you really ****ing think Andy and Dorsey are going to draft a 1st round QB to take over after Alex Smith as early as next year? They've already demonstrated that they value loading up on shitty pass rushers you can find in ANY ****ING DRAFT in Dee Ford. They value drafting those types of players more than they do drafting players like Teddy Bridgewater.

If another Bridgewater falls to us in the draft, do you really think Andy and Dorsey will pull the trigger again when "they're just so close to being a top team in the NFL and need to maintain that success when they let other players walk/retire?"

Of course they ****ing won't.

Now how again are they ****ing different from Marty and Carl? Or Vermeil? Or Pioli with his ****toy Matt?

They're not.

One could guess the plan is to Moneyball the QB position with Aaron Murray. Let him get acclimated physically, give him time on the bench to get the mental part down and see what he has in preseason. He's UFA in 2018, so either he's flipped to someone in a trade before that point or the team is able to work a deal better than the $700k he's going to top out at.


Problem is, I don't see how this is a good idea to find and develop a QBotF because of the money tied up in Smith until 2017. From now to that point, there's no incentive to get Murray reps with the first team against an opposing first team defense because Smith's contract pretty much means you have to do all you can to win with him under center.

Inspector 07-08-2015 04:17 PM

What?

You mean we're allowed to leave???

Fish 07-08-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 11587655)
What?

You mean we're allowed to leave???

I think you have to reach 50,000 posts before that option comes available...

Rams Fan 07-08-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11587138)
ROFL.....and then they drafted one in their 1st season.

When even a Rams fan knows that Murray was taken in 2014 and Bray was signed as an UDFA in 2013 along with Daniel to backup Smith in 2013. LMAO


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