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'Hamas' Jenkins 11-04-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161343)
I don't disagree with any of this, but I believe that even the guilty deserve their day in court.

Do you have to presume that the other guy is a fan of Bin Laden or practices dog fighting for that day in court to occur?

GoChargers 11-04-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161320)
:spock: That seems like a strange connection to draw.

Yes, it's kind of extreme, but my point is that Wallace hasn't exactly demonstrated that he knows how to avoid being a distraction in the locker room himself, so his credibility is very low on this topic.

-King- 11-04-2013 10:33 PM

So is Patteeu bringing up Martin's sexuality because him being gay makes it okay for Incognito to abuse him? I'm confused.

Cause if not, why even bring it up?

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10161347)
Do you have to presume that the other guy is a fan of Bin Laden or practices dog fighting for that day in court to occur?

Does it matter?

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10161352)
So is Patteeu bringing up Martin's sexuality because him being gay makes it okay for Incognito to abuse him? I'm confused.

Cause if not, why even bring it up?

What gave you that idea? Was it is post where he explicitly stated the opposite of that?

tk13 11-04-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10161327)
:facepalm:

Feigning disgust isn't going to make it any less accurate or even address the point at hand. Mike Wallace has not exactly been the shining beacon of maturity. Good try, good effort.

-King- 11-04-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161356)
What gave you that idea? Was it is post where he explicitly stated the opposite of that?

Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-04-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161354)
Does it matter?

I think it does. We are free to make judgments based upon the evidence. You are also aware of the fact that this thread has grown exponentially today--once the content of Incognito's messages were released. He's had five days to respond and he's formulated no response. He has an awful reputation.

This isn't a lynch mob forming fifteen minutes after the thread was posted. To call it a lynch mob could not be more inaccurate.

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10161358)
Feigning disgust isn't going to make it any less accurate or even address the point at hand. Mike Wallace has not exactly been the shining beacon of maturity. Good try, good effort.

My daughter said the bus driver was touching her little brother inappropriately...but she also forgets to make her bed sometimes...so I shouldn't bother looking into it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-04-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10161361)
Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.

You have it all wrong. patteeu is operating on a meta-level. By mentioning Martin's sexuality he's shining the light on our unspoken intolerance of gays. When we don't mention his sexual orientation as a factor it's because we secretly abhor him.

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10161361)
Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.

Give him a minute to answer, and I'll bet we find that he has a better explanation than the motive you assigned him. Funny given the current discussion...

tk13 11-04-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161372)
My daughter said the bus driver was touching her little brother inappropriately...but she also forgets to make her bed sometimes...so I shouldn't bother looking into it.

That is quite a melodramatic leap in logic.

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10161368)
I think it does. We are free to make judgments based upon the evidence. You are also aware of the fact that this thread has grown exponentially today--once the content of Incognito's messages were released. He's had five days to respond and he's formulated no response. He has an awful reputation.

This isn't a lynch mob forming fifteen minutes after the thread was posted. To call it a lynch mob could not be more inaccurate.

It's a mob demanding a lynching. Call it what you will.

Saul Good 11-04-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10161380)
That is quite a melodramatic leap in logic.

Yet it's the same flawed reasoning.

tk13 11-04-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10161386)
Yet it's the same flawed reasoning.

Not making the bed is equivalent to pouting, child molestation, bullying and potential extortion? That's extremely melodramatic.


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