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DeepSouth 09-16-2016 06:53 AM

Vargas to start Saturday's game. He'll be limited to 45 pitches or three innings. Gee will be the first guy out of the pen.

Nzoner 09-16-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12429190)
Welp, looks like another 30 years.

Unfortunately the next 5 or so will be probably be with Yost :#

OmahaChief 09-16-2016 07:31 AM

It has been great to see the starting pitchers decide the season was over. Have those F sticks even been trying lately. Come on man.

duncan_idaho 09-16-2016 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12429422)
From Royals Review:







Lots of ways you can slice and dice the failure in 2016.



Just a weird thing. And a nice anecdote to why run differential is something you have to look at in context with the Royals.

Yeah, the run differential of -37 says they've far outplayed their expected record. But getting blitzed by two bad teams from the AL West (worse than they did against the best team in that division) is pretty random.


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ChiTown 09-16-2016 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 12429470)
Unfortunately the next 5 or so will be probably be with Yost :#

No. I will be shocked if Ned Manages past 2017 (when this Team's run will be over). I think we re-stock the missing parts and make a run for the Hardware next season. After that, I think Edgar will be ready to do nothing more than Hunt, Fish and Mow Grass.

Great Expectations 09-16-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief (Post 12429474)
It has been great to see the starting pitchers decide the season was over. Have those F sticks even been trying lately. Come on man.

Do you think that you want the team to win more than they do?ROFL

duncan_idaho 09-16-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12429494)
No. I will be shocked if Ned Manages past 2017 (when this Team's run will be over). I think we re-stock the missing parts and make a run for the Hardware next season. After that, I think Edgar will be ready to do nothing more than Hunt, Fish and Mow Grass.



Yeah. And while the Royals online verse likes to freak out about payroll and how there's no room under the current payroll to plug holes in 2017, I look at a move like bringing up Jason Vargas for this season - a move that voids the $6 million insurance payment on him in a season in which they have no chance and he can't make a difference - and think that Glass is probably going to green light another payroll increase, at least for 2017.


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ChiefsCountry 09-16-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 12429470)
Unfortunately the next 5 or so will be probably be with Yost :#

LaRussa effect is in full swing.

siberian khatru 09-16-2016 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12429565)
Yeah. And while the Royals online verse likes to freak out about payroll and how there's no room under the current payroll to plug holes in 2017, I look at a move like bringing up Jason Vargas for this season - a move that voids the $6 million insurance payment on him in a season in which they have no chance and he can't make a difference - and think that Glass is probably going to green light another payroll increase, at least for 2017.


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Sure about that?

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Here is how the Vargas insurance situation was explained to me. The Royals’ insurance policy covered all but the first 60 days of the season and was based on the number of days that Vargas missed. If he would have missed the whole season, the policy would have covered about $6 million of his $8.5 million salary. But Vargas returning in September won’t affect the policy at all. The insurance payouts will simply stop if and when he returns to the active roster.

I read that as, by this point the payments have, or virtually have, maxed out. Flanagan tweeted the same thing back in July.

duncan_idaho 09-16-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12429594)
Sure about that?







I read that as, by this point the payments have, or virtually have, maxed out. Flanagan tweeted the same thing back in July.



Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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siberian khatru 09-16-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12429606)
Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Agreed

DeepSouth 09-16-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12429606)
Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Duncan, where do you see that increase being spent. LF = Gordan, CF = Cain/Burns, RF = Orlando/Dozier/Dyson/Bonifacio, 3rd = Moose/Cuthbert/Dozier, SS = Escabar/Mondesi, 2nd = Mondesi/Merrifield/Colon, 1st = Hos/Cuthbert/Dozier, C = Perez/Butera. Four of the starting rotation should be set with Duffy/Kennedy/Ventura/Vargas. You have Minor/Strahm/Young as possible 5th starter. And hopefully, Zimmer or Almonte will push for a starting spot. Other than pitching (starters and pen), what position would you replace the current player(s)?

Prison Bitch 09-16-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12429606)
Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Yep. They'll worry about $ in 2018

sedated 09-16-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12429606)
Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.

Another playoff run in 2017 will keep ratings up in 2018 while negotiating the new TV deal.

ChiefsCountry 09-16-2016 10:57 AM

Royals finished 10-24 against the AL West. That is why we aren't in the playoff hunt.

Indians, White Sox, and Twins all have winning records against the AL West. Detroit is at .500. If we were even .500 with the AL West, tied for the Wild card spot right now.


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