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KCBOSS1 01-04-2010 04:46 PM

We are one year into a total re-build that we all knew was going to have to happen and of course, the planet is exploding because we're not 8&8. It took Herm a few years to completely demolish a winning program and it's gonna take a few years to re-establish one.

SAUTO 01-04-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6409423)
Who said anything about coming in and whacking everyone?

I'm saying it's no excuse to ignore bringing in a pass rushing OLB via the draft or FA just because you want to see if Hali can do it.

****. That.

You acquire talent first and foremost. If Hali ends up being serviceable, even better. You can mow move him to the other side, which is a gaping ****ing hole, or at worst have quality depth at a position you previously had nothing at.

hali worked out in that regards, no? so why overspend on a high priced pass rusher in FA? what if he didnt feel as though the draft had one that was worth our pick in a given round? no you... him. his feelings. that what he's paid for correct? and that's why he was voted wait for it i know you love this here it comes EXECUTIVE OF THE DECADE.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6409429)
didnt he also get a 5 tech that we didnt have to start with? also a couple of linemen the could probably work out for a year or two.

Are you serious?

You're going to claim that Jackson, Alleman and Ndukwe are "acquiring talent?"

You're going to ridiculous lengths to defend a guy that brought in 45+ new players, and found zero playmakers, a guy that is a borderline WR2, more like WR3, and a place kicker.

All of the elite talent, playmakers, however you want to slice it - all came from previous regimes.

After one year, that is completely unacceptable.

Hootie 01-04-2010 04:52 PM

Yawn.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6409439)
hali worked out in that regards, no? so why overspend on a high priced pass rusher in FA? what if he didnt feel as though the draft had one that was worth our pick in a given round? no you... him. his feelings. that what he's paid for correct? and that's why he was voted wait for it i know you love this here it comes EXECUTIVE OF THE DECADE.

No, he really didn't.

Unless you're OK with your "best" LB getting 8 sacks a year and getting abused in the run game.

There are a handful of positions that are unlikely to be able to be upgraded:

CB, LT, K, P

You can add Charles to that list, but we have no depth, nor anyone to spell him.


Otherwise, every position on the roster could be pretty easily upgraded - and could have been last offseason as well.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6409454)
Yawn.

Yeah, arguing with Sauto is boring.

Arguing with you is much more exciting.

SAUTO 01-04-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6409447)
Are you serious?

You're going to claim that Jackson, Alleman and Ndukwe are "acquiring talent?"

You're going to ridiculous lengths to defend a guy that brought in 45+ new players, and found zero playmakers, a guy that is a borderline WR2, more like WR3, and a place kicker.

All of the elite talent, playmakers, however you want to slice it - all came from previous regimes.

After one year, that is completely unacceptable.


so the guy rated as the BEST 5 TECH in the draft wasnt "talent" that was acquired?

what about o'callahan? he wasnt acquired? he hasnt played lights out but he has been an upgrade from who was there to start the season.

You are the one going to ridiculous lengths to bash the guy. hell you have spent all ****ing day doing just that. it was obvious you were looking for a fight at 8 am this morning and you have spent all day fighting. did you have a bad weekend? you seem a little tense today. its funny how you use tis place as an outlet. you need to yell at someone you are here. i'm just glad hootie took one for the team today.

Hootie 01-04-2010 04:56 PM

no you're just a broken record

we get it

we do

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6409470)
no you're just a broken record

we get it

we do

Obviously, Sauto doesn't.

SAUTO 01-04-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6409470)
no you're just a broken record

we get it

we do

mecca has rubbed off well on this one. hell he spent quite some time asking if anyone heard him this morning, then when some replied they werent what he was looking for so he still said he was being ignored. poor guy

SAUTO 01-04-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6409474)
Obviously, Sauto doesn't.

uuummmmm yes i do, like hootie said you are a broken ****ing record saying the same thing, over and over and over and over, and then to make it even better you say it in every thread no matter the topic.

charles=pioli
cassel=pioli
waters=pioli
everything goes back to you standing on your little box ranting about what they did wrong and what YOU would have liked to happen. Are you that ****ing spoiled that if you dont get you way you keep going over it again and again until someone caves?

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6409467)
so the guy rated as the BEST 5 TECH in the draft wasnt "talent" that was acquired?

what about o'callahan? he wasnt acquired? he hasnt played lights out but he has been an upgrade from who was there to start the season.

You are the one going to ridiculous lengths to bash the guy. hell you have spent all ****ing day doing just that. it was obvious you were looking for a fight at 8 am this morning and you have spent all day fighting. did you have a bad weekend? you seem a little tense today. its funny how you use tis place as an outlet. you need to yell at someone you are here. i'm just glad hootie took one for the team today.

Oh, FFS.

Who did we acquire that's a PLAYMAKER?

A DIFFERENCE MAKER?

An IMPACT PLAYER?

Your defense of Pioli is Tyson Jackson, who plays a complementary position, and Ryan ****ing O'Callaghan, who was no better (also no worse) than McIntosh?

Really?

That's your case?

Wow.

Well, I can't beat stupidity. I'm done.

Enjoy the Kool-Aid. Yay Pioli. Yay 2/45.

SAUTO 01-04-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6409486)
Oh, FFS.

Who did we acquire that's a PLAYMAKER?

A DIFFERENCE MAKER?

An IMPACT PLAYER?

Your defense of Pioli is Tyson Jackson, who plays a complementary position, and Ryan ****ing O'Callaghan, who was no better (also no worse) than McIntosh?

Really?

That's your case?

Wow.

Well, I can't beat stupidity. I'm done.

Enjoy the Kool-Aid. Yay Pioli. Yay 2/45.

now it changes (par for the course with you) originally it was who was an UPGRADE. now it's a playmaker. just make up what you want and run with it cool guy

Hootie 01-04-2010 05:04 PM

I'm all for firing Pioli and hiring Mecca and OTWP...with Hamas and Dane on their staff...

that's what they want...they spend so much time breaking down tape and scouting prospects...they'd be perfect hires

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6409493)
now it changes (par for the course with you) originally it was who was an UPGRADE. now it's a playmaker. just make up what you want and run with it cool guy

Didn't change anything, you just can't, or choose not to read.

The following was said early in the conversation, you just chose to focus on the talent comment, because without it, you're argument look seven more ridiculous that it already does.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6409447)
Are you serious?

You're going to claim that Jackson, Alleman and Ndukwe are "acquiring talent?"

You're going to ridiculous lengths to defend a guy that brought in 45+ new players, and found zero playmakers, a guy that is a borderline WR2, more like WR3, and a place kicker.

All of the elite talent, playmakers, however you want to slice it - all came from previous regimes.

After one year, that is completely unacceptable.

Later.


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