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OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437445)
Yes, they previously held Coordinator jobs with the New England Patriots.
That said, can we really argue that they aren't fully qualified and among the VERY BEST candidates available for these vacancies?

Well... I suppose there are 4 people here who can.

Care to name the 4?

The Bad Guy 01-12-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6437410)
On the same website today, there is an article that states both Crennel and Fewell are still unsigned contrary to reports, and are still on the Giants radar.
Posted via Mobile Device

The guy is holding his hat on the fact that the contract is not signed. Crennel has told the Chiefs he's coming there. Now they are just hammering out the contract.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437445)
Yes, they previously held Coordinator jobs with the New England Patriots.
That said, can we really argue that they aren't fully qualified and among the VERY BEST candidates available for these vacancies?

Well... I suppose there are 4 people here who can.

I have no problem with the Weis hire. Never claimed that I did. I don't think he's the perfect hire, but he's not the best, IMO. But the Crennel hire is troubling on three fronts.

#1) Belichick had his hand in really deep on those defense, planning and scheming
#2) Crennel's Ds in Cleveland were miserable
#3) Yet another guy from the Pats.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-12-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437418)
Don't be so dumb.

Think about it. It's not that they'll stop trying to acquire talent, it's that they only seem to look to the narrowest avenues from which to find ideas and talent.

The reason that free agency is largely a bust, is because players often don't fit the new team.

So, by being more selective about the players, and where they players come from.... they are protecting the chemistry of the team.

This was especially important in the first year of the program. As the team progresses, I would look for them to bring in more players from other systems.

But, team chemistry is very important, especially on a losing team.

The key is to having guys buy in. So, it figures that would be an easier sell to guys who have already bought in to similar systems.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6437456)
The reason that free agency is largely a bust, is because players often don't fit the new team.

So, by being more selective about the players, and where they players come from.... they are protecting the chemistry of the team.

This was especially important in the first year of the program. As the team progresses, I would look for them to bring in more players from other systems.

But, team chemistry is very important, especially on a losing team.

The key is to having guys buy in. So, it figures that would be an easier sell to guys who have already bought in to similar systems.

Bad players will buy in anywhere, because they if they don't they can't get a job anywhere else.

Unfortunately, they still lose games for you.

Micjones 01-12-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6437451)
Care to name the 4?

I think it's fairly obvious.

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437461)
I think it's fairly obvious.

No, please.

Could you name the 4 for me?

LaChapelle 01-12-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6437315)
I can't fathom why more people don't wade into football discussions...

football is the least of the discussions
I'm right is all that seems to matter
zzzzzzzz

Micjones 01-12-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6437462)
No, please.

Could you name the 4 for me?

Don't play dumb.

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437472)
Don't play dumb.

I'm not playing dumb, but I sure am curious as to why you're avoiding a simple question.

The four, please.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-12-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437454)
I have no problem with the Weis hire. Never claimed that I did. I don't think he's the perfect hire, but he's not the best, IMO. But the Crennel hire is troubling on three fronts.

#1) Belichick had his hand in really deep on those defense, planning and scheming
#2) Crennel's Ds in Cleveland were miserable
#3) Yet another guy from the Pats.


#1) Any new upcoming coach would have had their former boss (DC) really involved in the planning and scheming.

#2) He wasn't the DC there, he was the HC. Some guys are just better coordinators. Oh, and is Phil Savage a guy that you think is a great GM? What did the Browns do prior to Crennel or this last year? Were they markedly better?

#3) Dumb. Who freaking cares? It is a stupid argument.

Now, to be honest, Crennel isn't my favorite DC. I don't particularly like his style of defense. He and Belichick run a more passive defense than I prefer. I like more of an attack style defense.

But, I think a team can be successful either way.

Crennel is easily one of the most qualified candidates on the market, and I think bashing the move just because he is from the Patriots four years ago is moronic.

The Bad Guy 01-12-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437454)
I have no problem with the Weis hire. Never claimed that I did. I don't think he's the perfect hire, but he's not the best, IMO. But the Crennel hire is troubling on three fronts.

#1) Belichick had his hand in really deep on those defense, planning and scheming
#2) Crennel's Ds in Cleveland were miserable
#3) Yet another guy from the Pats.

Does the fact that Haley's offenses in KC this year were awful make him any less attractive as a coordinator if (or when) he's canned?

I don't think they do.

Donger 01-12-2010 11:58 AM

I'm starting to think that Hamas is only happy when he has something to bitch about.

Good lord.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-12-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437459)
Bad players will buy in anywhere, because they if they don't they can't get a job anywhere else.

Unfortunately, they still lose games for you.


Yeah, those Pat, Dolpin and Card teams are filled with bad players that can't get a job anywhere else. I mean, what with two of them being playoff teams this year and the Phins having a winning season.

I see what you mean.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6437462)
No, please.

Could you name the 4 for me?

If you think it matters that you really haven't been in this thread, you're wrong.


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