If they could get Notre Dame, which I doubt knowing the Irish, you would figure BYU and Air Force would be the others mainly bc they are Notre Dame & Texas allies.

South Division
Texas
Notre Dame
BYU
Air Force
Baylor
Texas Tech

North Division
Missouri
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State

8 game schedule mainly for ND's liking, plus a permanent cross over:
Texas-Oklahoma
Notre Dame-Missouri
Texas Tech-Oklahoma State
Baylor-Kansas
BYU-Kansas State
Air Force-Iowa State

Like I said, chances are slim but it could actually work.

The Big 12 would still have to recruit 4 more schools to align with proposed super conferences idea.

Right now we are 6 teams short of being a legit conference.....

I have tons of respect for fans that are grounded in reality. I get shit from my friends for telling them how it is when it comes to KSU and KU.


KU and KSU are an afterthought in the Big 12. The rest of the Big 12 wouldn't give a shit what happens to the Kansas teams.

This isn't as much of a shit your pants situation as last year bc worst case scenario for Mizzou is they wind up in the Big East. Which would suck really hard but it is a decent worst case compared to other worst cases.

If a conference arms race starts Missouri is a nice grab for the B10 or SEC.

I havent even thought about KSU, I guess the KU/KSU are a package deal?


Regardless. Neither have much to offer any conference in terms of big time sports...

Knee pads guys. Time to earn your way into a conference...

But my guess is they will sit around and basically be left out in the cold and latch on to whomever will "let them" into a conference...

I don't think 16 is in any immediate plans. At least not until 2016, if then. Even the SEC is talking about taking small steps to 14 before going to 16. If you can get to 12 in this fashion, and it proves successful, then you can look at expansion if that looks like what others will do. Further, you don't know the actual success of other conferences. What if the PAC doesn't do as well as they think, would the Arizona schools consider making an Arizona Network and jumping? Will Arkansas continue to feel like an outsider in the SEC? That's a lot of time to take stock which you can buy with a ND and BYU.

I missed the 2016 16 team conference part... Thanks for the update.

I agree 100% ND and BYU would be a huge get for the Big 12 conference.

I tend to disagree. I think both KU and K-State will land in a "major" conference when the dust settles.

Iowa State may be in trouble.

KU and KSU are not legally tied to one another. KU's best hope is that the PAC convinces Texas-OU-OSU to join them and then prefers KU to Tech. Tech has the advantage of an in state ally and better football program, but KU holds the advantage in everything else: potential market share, national recognition from its basketball program and an expanded geographic footprint. I actually like our chances against Tech.

That would be hawt.

Given this or the SEC, from a fan standpoint, I'd rather the above scenario.

But it's not gonna happen.

Man, as a KU fan I would dread the SEC in football... We get our shit pushed in during big 12 play... Radio would be so f'd in the SEC...

MU would get raped in the SEC... For awhile.

Yes and no.

If the SEC snipes A&M, I agree that it's probably not the end of the world as I believe it would be a sign of significant SEC expansion, which would trigger B1G expansion, which would get the PAC10 going as well.

Mizzou would surely land in one of the SEC or B1G situations.

However, if it's just enough instability to lead the P10 to make another big push toward grabbing OU and OSU or something like that, which could implode the conference without triggering wholesale expansion among the SEC and B1G, Mizzou would be in a whole lot of trouble.

Last season the most realistic scenario's had MU left holding it's dick and the slight possibility left us with a nice home. This season the most likely scenarios leave us with a nice home, but there's still a chance we're left holding our dicks here.

And there's always that chance when Aldon's running the show...

MU would be at the same spot as Arkansas... not the top of the SEC, but hardly getting raped.

:hmmm: Yeah, I am calling it Raped...

Nah, but they'd be 2nd tier, for sure.

Ol' Miss, Kentucky, Miss, Vandy, TN; they can all be beaten and are no worse than comparable programs to MU (most of them worse). Arkansas is about neck and neck with us as well and I'm not convinced LSU is any better than MU with Miles at the helm.

Would MU be winning 10/season in the SEC? No, no they would not. But they'd still put together 3 non-con wins every season and probably end up around 7 or 8 wins and bowl eligible for a few years before they hopefully make the leap to the major leagues.

I'm sorry, it sounds homery, but MU's winning 10 games with some regularity now and is pulling legitimately high end prospects every season. They're nabbing 4 star quarterbacks out of Texas at this point. There's no reason to believe they'd get 'raped' in any conference in the country. They're no powerhouse, but they're a legitimate top 25 program.