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Brock 07-08-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587819)
There are about 45 million reasons that say they do.

Are you kidding? First they won't spend big dollars on a qb, then when they spent average dollars on a retread, that means they feel they can win the super bowl with him?

Jesus.

Eleazar 07-08-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587835)
Does Todd Blackledge vindicate Carl Peterson for passing on Aaron Rodgers?

Almost every team in the league "passed on Aaron Rodgers".

RealSNR 07-08-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11587852)
Almost every team in the league "passed on Aaron Rodgers".

That's not an excuse.

If you're an owner who wants to try getting a flashy young QB to build a dynasty, and you also want to bring him along with a pretty good coach and solid team behind him, you have to start taking chances on those QBs like Aaron Rodgers who fall to you.

You're not going to get back into the top 5 if you're obsessed with the veteran QB with the supportive defense.

"Most teams passed" is not an excuse. These are first round prospects on everybody's draft boards that are falling to us and we're content to draft shitty ****s instead. "Everybody else passed" is not an excuse for the Chiefs to not draft Aaron Rodgers. It's not an excuse for the Chiefs to not draft Teddy Bridgewater. Not when you're built the way we are and the way Clark envisioned when he sought to win immediately after 2-14 so he could get back his money through more butts in the seats.

What that tells me is drafting a really good QB prospect actually ISN'T that important to an owner.

Discuss Thrower 07-08-2015 06:20 PM

What's been the worst case scenario for a team who drafted a QB early in the draft that didn't involve Oakland?

Would it be Washington and RG3? If so, isn't RG3 busting namely a product of the one of the worst owners in professional sports, Shanahan being a nutjob and RG3 being put in a position to get injured or exposed as a player?

If a team like KC in '14 -with a veteran QB the unquestioned starter, a great RB and a good to great defense with average guys everywhere else- drafted RG3 and let him sit for a season or two behind the starter, are they any worse off than if they did by reaching for a defensive player who was inconsequential in his rookie season anyway?

Eleazar 07-08-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11587841)
Are you kidding? First they won't spend big dollars on a qb, then when they spent average dollars on a retread, that means they feel they can win the super bowl with him?

Jesus.

You don't think Reid and Dorsey believe they can win the Super Bowl with Alex Smith?

Lex Luthor 07-08-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11587831)
Were you also a "Geno at 1.1" disciple?

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587835)
Does Todd Blackledge vindicate Carl Peterson for passing on Aaron Rodgers?

Why won't you answer Cochise's question?

Brock 07-08-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11587900)
You don't think Reid and Dorsey believe they can win the Super Bowl with Alex Smith?

I'm sure they believe there's a chance. He's here because he was their best chance at getting the team respectable again quickly. I don't think they view him as a likely super bowl qb though. Who would?

Discuss Thrower 07-08-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 11587903)
Why won't you answer Cochise's question?

Because it's irrelevant to seeing it was advantageous to take Bridgewater instead of Dee ****ing Ford.

And, for the record, once Geno's character and work ethic concerns were publicized it made sense to pass on him at the #1 overall spot.

Just Passin' By 07-08-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587934)
Because it's irrelevant to seeing it was advantageous to take Bridgewater instead of Dee ****ing Ford.

And, for the record, once Geno's character and work ethic concerns were publicized it made sense to pass on him at the #1 overall spot.

It made sense to pass on Geno Smith at 1.1 from day one.

RealSNR 07-08-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 11587903)
Why won't you answer Cochise's question?

It's irrelevant to the Thrower's argument, that's why.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-08-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11587949)
It made sense to pass on Geno Smith at 1.1 from day one.

LMAO

No.

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11587989)
LMAO

No.

Yes

Eleazar 07-08-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587889)
What's been the worst case scenario for a team who drafted a QB early in the draft that didn't involve Oakland?

Would it be Washington and RG3? If so, isn't RG3 busting namely a product of the one of the worst owners in professional sports, Shanahan being a nutjob and RG3 being put in a position to get injured or exposed as a player?

Well, they traded what, 3 firsts and some change to move up from the top 10 to #2 and get him? Someone whose body was never going to hold up in the league and can't make the reads needed for a true NFL offense.

DaneMcCloud 07-08-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11587889)
What's been the worst case scenario for a team who drafted a QB early in the draft that didn't involve Oakland?

:facepalm:

Eleazar 07-08-2015 10:35 PM

I suppose the worst case scenario for a QB bust is that you set your franchise back 3-4 years and by then your roster has aged out, your GM and HC have run out of time, so you end up starting over after a housecleaning. Maybe draft pick poor because of what it took you to move up.


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