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Red Dawg 01-22-2017 07:09 PM

We played numerous bad defenses and Smith did nothing. Every other QB killed it but ours. Smith is just the worst in the league hands down.

MahiMike 01-22-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12695291)
Let me go get the playbook that Andy gave me....

....shit, guess I can't find it.

What I can say is that yes, I did play WR in high school and to this day can still tell you my route tree. And yes, I know quite a bit about the game and am absolutely certain that EVERYBODY is taught to look to their outside shoulder on a flag route (again, unless it's a designed back shoulder throw and nothing Maclin did in running his route suggests that it was).

Again, just think of the physical machinations involved in looking over your inside shoulder on that route. Your feet follow your shoulders and your shoulders follow your head - it's virtually impossible to stay on the correct track for a flag route if you turn your head inside; you'll flatten out that route every time.

So sadly, as I seem to have misplaced my 2017 Chiefs playbook, the best I can give you is a circumstantial case. 1) That was a flag route with a DB that had inside position on the WR. 2) WRs are taught to look to their outside shoulder on flag routes due to basic body mechanics and the fact that the route is usually set up to draw the WR to the inside and thus give the QB the boundary to throw at (and the WR can shield the DB away from the ball). 3) The throw was perfectly placed at the flag. 4) Maclin did nothing as he attempted to find the ball that suggested that he was supposed to do anything other than run under it and bring it in over a shoulder (virtually impossible and 100x more difficult to do from the inside shoulder). 5) Maclin has made several odd mistakes in routes this year and has recently admitted that he simply hasn't been right this year mentally or physically.

Absolutely every bit of circumstantial evidence and basic reasoning suggests that the throw was designed to go to the outside shoulder. It's a basic staple play. I've actually presented a case for it and the best anyone has said in response is....well nothing really. You're asking me to just assume that the guy that's had a pretty poor year made the right play when in fact every readily available piece of evidence suggests the opposite.

If you think Smith screwed up, by all means, give me something other than "well Maclin was open" as your argument. Because Smith threw the ball exactly where an open Maclin would've caught it and strolled into the end-zone had he simply looked over the other shoulder. Smith led Maclin, Maclin just didn't locate the ball.

Dwayne Bowe 2.0

Bowser 01-22-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12702917)
Matt Ryan just threw for more yardage in a half than Alex Smith did in 16 of 18 full games.

https://media.tenor.co/images/e524e2...c98640cce7/raw

Reerun_KC 01-22-2017 07:43 PM

He cut or traded yet?

BigCatDaddy 01-22-2017 07:52 PM

Pitts D is just horrible

Snica 01-22-2017 07:56 PM

Gee look what a competent QB does to this defense.

DJ's left nut 01-22-2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12703838)
Gee look what a competent QB does to this defense.

And it's not like he's out there playing amazing football.

These are easy pitch/catch plays and they were everywhere for a QB that isn't feeling phantom pressure and refusing to release the ball.

I still think Trevor Seimien wins that game. Fireable performance from Smith, without question.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-22-2017 08:15 PM

Gee, who could have predicted that this game would be a further, and damning indictment of Smith?
:shake:

Dorsey needs to call Clark and pull rank.

Or establish it.

RunKC 01-22-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12703914)
And it's not like he's out there playing amazing football.

These are easy pitch/catch plays and they were everywhere for a QB that isn't feeling phantom pressure and refusing to release the ball.

I still think Trevor Seimien wins that game. Fireable performance from Smith, without question.

Oh god you just had to put that salt in the wound? I agree but goddamn is that some depressing shit

DJ's left nut 01-22-2017 09:23 PM

384 yards without breaking a sweat.

This question is answered. Again, I'm not holding him to the standard of Brady, but the Pats didn't even try in the 4th quarter.

In a game where you were losing almost the whole game and the running game couldn't get on track, 300+ yards should have been simple.

If Brady needed 500 in that game, he'd have had it. Smith needed 300 and couldn't swing it.

The book is closed here, IMO. Time to move on.

ChiefsCountry 01-22-2017 09:31 PM

Chris Hogan had more receiving yards against the Steelers than Alex Smith had passing yards.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12704157)

The book is closed here, IMO. Time to move on.

So what's the plan?

Bugeater 01-22-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12702512)
You recall that when this place behaved like you are now back when we were 2-2, the team went on to finish 12-4. Just like at 1-5 in 2015, I stood by this team then everybody jumped back on the bandwagon when we won 10 straight.

Quit being ignorant. Drop the kool-aid.

LIE! LIE!! LIE!!!!

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 11793024)
Gaines is out, Charles is out. Let's just tank this season. Trade away Daniel for a 2nd-3rd round pick and surrender a future 4th/5th. And pray we can build an elite defense for next season behind our strong front. Draft OL again (Sigh) and prepare West to be a split carries guy with Jamaal.

Plenty of options out there to bring in a WR2, such as Sanu or Jones which Bengals can't afford both in free agency.

Silver linings from today: The Jamaal injury is early in the season so he'll have 10 months to recover, we'll get a soft schedule next season, and we are set for a low draft pick.

You are ****ing owned, bitch.

OnTheWarpath15 01-22-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12704171)
Chris Hogan had more receiving yards against the Steelers than Alex Smith had passing yards.

LMAO

OnTheWarpath15 01-22-2017 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12704176)
LIE! LIE!! LIE!!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=21



You are ****ing owned, bitch.

Let the backpedaling begin!


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