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The Bad Guy 07-30-2011 07:04 AM

I think this guy is probably one of the best run stopping NT's in the league. He's an absolute beast one on one.

Great mentor for Powe too.

Good low-risk signing.

From what I heard this morning, Franklin isn't finding the money out there and is still asking for the moon.

Hammock Parties 07-30-2011 07:10 AM

Nick just posted this, for what it's worth...

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I'm in a giving mood this morning. Phone rang at 7:15 AM and word on the street is that the Chiefs, Cowboys Jets and I assume at some point the Oakland Raiders have interest in Asante Samuels. Philly wants a 2nd Rounder in return. Stay tuned!!!

Mr. Flopnuts 07-30-2011 07:10 AM

LOL

The Bad Guy 07-30-2011 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7787686)
Nick just posted this, for what it's worth...

The loogie I just spit on the street is worth more than that.

Mr. Flopnuts 07-30-2011 07:13 AM

The only way this makes sense is if we're giving up on Carr. And I have no idea why we would do something like that.

philfree 07-30-2011 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7787672)
Impossible, Pioli is spending all his time sleeping.

That and sitting on his hands.

Mr. Flopnuts 07-30-2011 07:18 AM

Here's the thing on Samuel. Dude's gonna make 9.5 million a year for the next 3 years on his contract. Nnamdi got 12 per for 5 years. Why not just pony up the extra money for superior talent rather than give up a 2nd round pick to get Samuel? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

milkman 07-30-2011 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7787700)
Here's the thing on Samuel. Dude's gonna make 9.5 million a year for the next 3 years on his contract. Nnamdi got 12 per for 5 years. Why not just pony up the extra money for superior talent rather than give up a 2nd round pick to get Samuel? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm with Bad Guy.

I just farted, and that has more value than anything Assclown reports.

keg in kc 07-30-2011 07:24 AM

I went to bed literally seconds after my right 53 post last night, so I guess I should fill in some details on what I think that means. It's just a philosophical cliche to at once outline the type of player (and character) with whom they want to build the team as well as describe what kind of team that they want it to be. Individually they want team-oriented players who both work and play hard. Football players rather than athletes, and they might not fit squarely into the physical prototype that characterizes the league as a whole. This does not mean they're trying to build a team on the cheap or that they don't want the most talented players they can find, simply that they're looking for the most talented players that fit exactly the mold they're looking for. Talent and character are not mutually-exclusive concepts. So if you can find a guy who's a star but not a 'me first' guy, a player who's going to push to the wall, and then beyond for his teammates, that's who you want. And you use these type of guys to build the best team you can. And that team, as a unit, is the right 53. It's not just a collection of players, like you're playing franchise mode in Madden and filling out the roster with the 53 guys who have the highest stats, it's about building a group of players who can co-exist and execute at the highest possible level. It's a team concept.

That's basically what I think that phrase means. And I could be wrong in my interpretation. Scott Pioli could read that and laugh in my face. But that's what I think it means.

As far as associating what Pioli has done with what Carl Peterson did, I don't really see it. I mean, in a sense, every GM does the same thing: they're all trying to build the best roster in a certain philosophical image. But I don't think Pioli's concept, both for a team and for what he's looking for in individual players, and Peterson's concept line up all that well. I also think Carl gave more leeway and power to his coaches than Pioli does. That is to say, I think Pioli probably has a much stronger hand on the wheel. He wants to build a team a certain way, a team that plays a certain way, and hired a coach that matches him philosophically, whereas Peterson seemed to go through the flavor of the month both with players and with coaches, Marty to Gun to Dick to Herm, offense to defense to whatever the **** that was.

Oh, and I also think that, once the team has a solid enough core established, you can begin to take the occasional risk, to bring in a few players that might fall outside the norm, philosophically. Like bringing in a Randy Moss or a Corey Dillon or an Albert Haynesworth or a Chad Johnson. Players who are so supremely talented that you bring them in despite character or attitude concerns, because you think at that point that your team is good enough, and the character in your lockerroom strong enough, that the potential reward is worth the risk.

I'm not sure the Chiefs have reached that point quite yet. I think they're probably still in the molding stage, have a young enough roster that maybe they don't want to risk a step back or a setback in terms of chemistry. We'll see with the signings this weekend.

keg in kc 07-30-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7787670)
Kelly Gregg is a Kansas City Chief.

Weigmann is happy.

Not surprised, although not necessarily excited either. Not a terrible signing I think, but I hope it's not the only one at the position.

philfree 07-30-2011 07:26 AM

Some people were being upset that we hadn't signed top tier FAs at "key positions" as soon as FA started. The thing is there are alot of good players who weren't even released till yesterday. Taking a more patient approach allows us to pick up players like Gregg and hopefully Warren. Two guys who weren't on the market till yesterday at 5:00 and two guys who are really good fits for what we want to do on D. Patience is virtue!

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2011 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7787521)
I think my "disaster" comment earlier seems a bit more reasonable now huh?

Don't worry. It is just as stupid now as it was then.

The Bad Guy 07-30-2011 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7787710)
Not surprised, although not necessarily excited either. Not a terrible signing I think, but I hope it's not the only one at the position.

It's going to be.

They'll use the year to see how Powe and Torpedo or whatever the F his name is progresses.

I hope they sign Ty Warren, but as far as NT, I can't see another one being brought in.

We lost 2 and added 2.

milkman 07-30-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 7787711)
Some people were being upset that we hadn't signed top tier FAs at "key positions" as soon as FA started. The thing is there are alot of good players who weren't even released till yesterday. Taking a more patient approach allows us to pick up players like Gregg and hopefully Warren. Two guys who weren't on the market till yesterday at 5:00 and two guys who are really good fits for what we want to do on D. Patience is virtue!

There are three guys that I thought should have been on the Chiefs radar at the start of this protracted free agency period.

Clabo
McClain
Breaston

Breaston signed.
I expected Clabo to return to Atlanta, but was hoping the Chiefs could make a run at him.

I expect Pioli will continue to fill out the roster with the 2nd tier guys like Gregg.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2011 07:40 AM

They've upgraded the NT position for this season. Nice signing.


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