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alanm 02-29-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4608924)
National average price is $3.13 per gallon. $0.74/gallon higher than last year at this time.

The good news: gasoline inventories are 12 million barrels higher than this time last year and almost 8% above the 5-year average.

The bad news: crude is $40/barrel higher right now than last year at this time.

Expect national retail averages in the $3.50 to $3.75 range, with spot prices well above $4.00 in the usual locations, by March/April, IMO, unless crude drops significantly.

On the plus side, we dropped gasoline demand by 1.1% over the last four week period. That doesn't sound like much, but it is.

I've a feeling this will be "The summer where everyone stayed home".:)

Brock 02-29-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 3919865)
If gasoline reaches $4.00, the government would almost certainly hit the SPR and eliminate the federal tax. States probably would as well.

No, they won't.

007 02-29-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4608924)
National average price is $3.13 per gallon. $0.74/gallon higher than last year at this time.

The good news: gasoline inventories are 12 million barrels higher than this time last year and almost 8% above the 5-year average.

The bad news: crude is $40/barrel higher right now than last year at this time.

Expect national retail averages in the $3.50 to $3.75 range, with spot prices well above $4.00 in the usual locations, by March/April, IMO, unless crude drops significantly.

On the plus side, we dropped gasoline demand by 1.1% over the last four week period. That doesn't sound like much, but it is.

Might be the last year I ever go on a vacation out of the 4 state region.

Donger 02-29-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 4608945)
I've a feeling this will be "The summer where everyone stayed home".:)

If that 1.1% drop is any indication during the winter months, I'd tend to agree.

Donger 02-29-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4608947)
No, they won't.

Well, they'd be foolish not to. Oh, wait a minute...

Fairplay 02-29-2008 07:15 PM

Buying gas at the pump will be a status symbol before long.

Look at me smiling while i fill my empty tank.

Donger 04-18-2008 12:18 PM

Meh.

Deberg_1990 04-18-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 4608945)
I've a feeling this will be "The summer where everyone stayed home".:)

Very true. People are resilient . They have just learned to budget things out of their lives they dont need in order to make up the difference. Mainly the entertainment budget.

Another option is to buy a cheaper car that takes less gas and a cheaper car payment.

BIG_DADDY 04-18-2008 12:24 PM

Already $4 here

oldandslow 04-18-2008 12:27 PM

Paid 3.53 for regular over the weekend in WI...

It's 3.39 here in SD.

Smed1065 04-18-2008 12:32 PM

$3.40 in Atlanta

Hays 04-18-2008 12:55 PM

3.40 in Columbia Mo as of yesterday

Donger 04-18-2008 01:05 PM

Since last fall, the average U.S. retail price for regular gasoline has been close to or above $3 per gallon in large part due to high crude oil prices. High crude oil prices are expected to remain an important reason why retail gasoline prices are projected to stay above $3 per gallon for some time to come. As the chart below indicates, we are now in the “time of the season” when gasoline demand begins to increase. As seasonal demand increases, prices tend to rise as well, all else equal. Even though U.S. gasoline demand has been lower than year-ago levels so far this year, EIA still expects that rising gasoline demand over the next few months will drive retail prices higher. So, while gasoline prices have risen above $3 per gallon mostly due to high crude oil prices, increasing gasoline demand will likely take retail gasoline prices to $3.50 per gallon and above, even if year-over-year gasoline demand is negative. The simple fact that more and more gasoline will be used over the next few months will probably be enough to cause retail gasoline prices to increase, even if crude oil prices begin declining, as EIA is currently projecting. Additionally, the cost of making “summer-grade” gasoline (“summer-grade” gasoline produces less smog) is significantly more than making “winter-grade” gasoline, helping to raise retail prices even further during the summer months, all else equal.

Of course, should crude oil prices not decline from current levels of over $110 per barrel for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil, retail gasoline prices could end up peaking even higher than EIA is currently projecting. In our latest Short-Term Energy Outlook, we project the U.S. average retail price for regular gasoline to average around $3.60 per gallon in May and June, implying prices even higher than that during some parts of those months. This projection is based on average monthly WTI spot prices of about $103-$104 per barrel and retail margins (the difference between retail prices and average crude oil prices) high, but still much lower than last year. Last year, the average WTI spot price was around $65 during May and June, nearly $40 less than what is projected for this year. However, the retail margin last year averaged $1.55 per gallon over those 2 months last year, while this year it is expected to only average about $1.15 per gallon. If retail margins this year end up being closer to last year’s and/or crude oil prices higher than currently projected (and the WTI spot price as of yesterday was about $10 higher than our current projection for May and June), U.S. gasoline consumers may end up wishing winter was just around the corner.

Bowser 04-18-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4692893)
Since last fall, the average U.S. retail price for regular gasoline has been close to or above $3 per gallon in large part due to high crude oil prices. High crude oil prices are expected to remain an important reason why retail gasoline prices are projected to stay above $3 per gallon for some time to come. As the chart below indicates, we are now in the “time of the season” when gasoline demand begins to increase. As seasonal demand increases, prices tend to rise as well, all else equal. Even though U.S. gasoline demand has been lower than year-ago levels so far this year, EIA still expects that rising gasoline demand over the next few months will drive retail prices higher. So, while gasoline prices have risen above $3 per gallon mostly due to high crude oil prices, increasing gasoline demand will likely take retail gasoline prices to $3.50 per gallon and above, even if year-over-year gasoline demand is negative. The simple fact that more and more gasoline will be used over the next few months will probably be enough to cause retail gasoline prices to increase, even if crude oil prices begin declining, as EIA is currently projecting. Additionally, the cost of making “summer-grade” gasoline (“summer-grade” gasoline produces less smog) is significantly more than making “winter-grade” gasoline, helping to raise retail prices even further during the summer months, all else equal.

Of course, should crude oil prices not decline from current levels of over $110 per barrel for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil, retail gasoline prices could end up peaking even higher than EIA is currently projecting. In our latest Short-Term Energy Outlook, we project the U.S. average retail price for regular gasoline to average around $3.60 per gallon in May and June, implying prices even higher than that during some parts of those months. This projection is based on average monthly WTI spot prices of about $103-$104 per barrel and retail margins (the difference between retail prices and average crude oil prices) high, but still much lower than last year. Last year, the average WTI spot price was around $65 during May and June, nearly $40 less than what is projected for this year. However, the retail margin last year averaged $1.55 per gallon over those 2 months last year, while this year it is expected to only average about $1.15 per gallon. If retail margins this year end up being closer to last year’s and/or crude oil prices higher than currently projected (and the WTI spot price as of yesterday was about $10 higher than our current projection for May and June), U.S. gasoline consumers may end up wishing winter was just around the corner.

What makes the price of crude go up? It seems like all the compnents are there for gas prices to go DOWN, but now the price of crude mysteriously goes up.

This shit needs to be regulated. Not just for us, but for the world.

beach tribe 04-18-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4692924)
What makes the price of crude go up? It seems like all the compnents are there for gas prices to go DOWN, but now the price of crude mysteriously goes up.

This shit needs to be regulated. Not just for us, but for the world.

The people who would be regulating it would have pockets busting at the seems, and nothing would change.


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