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DJ's left nut 11-03-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 15932679)
Heard some attorney on the radio talking about this and he believes this will never go to court. Even the high priced defense attorney won't like this case and the family won't want all the details stretching out for months and months. Both sides will talk behind closed doors and settle as quietly as possible. Ruggs will do his time but still not likely to go to court. Will civil cases come up later? Maybe...

It really shouldn't at this point.

What's the benefit?

It looks like the sentence for 2nd degree murder (the depraved heart murder I discussed above) is 25 years w/ the possibility of parole after 10.

If you're Ruggs lawyers and can get 10 years with no parole, I think you're wise to take them up on that offer. Plead no contest to the DUI/Homicide charge, keep 2nd degree murder off the table and lock in your sentencing.

TribalElder 11-03-2021 04:38 PM

still time to win that auction for a signed henry ruggs III raiders jersey

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28451484621...YAAOSwc-Jhgoh0

80 bucks ROFL

Bump 11-03-2021 04:40 PM

156 mph?


deserves the full penalty under their law which someone said was 20 years in prison.

TEX 11-03-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15932661)
I'm sure you're right, but it should be

Its hard to imagine the supremely reckless disregard for not only your own life, but the lives of others, to do 150 on a residential street with a speed limit of 25

Oh yes. There should be something much harsher than some degree of manslaughter.

MIAdragon 11-03-2021 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15932719)
156 mph?


deserves the full penalty under their law which someone said was 20 years in prison.

On a res street no less. Speechless.

Easy 6 11-03-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15932695)
Most jurisdictions recognize a 2nd degree murder charge for conduct that demonstrates reckless indifference to life and in the process leads to a foreseeable death.

It's sometimes called depraved or wanton heart murder.

Man, if this doesn't qualify, I'm not sure what does.

Not sure if Vegas recognizes it or if the penalties for it are any different than the 2-20 under the DUI/Homicide charge he's been hit with.

In either event, it really kicks the legs out from under the defense's stool here. Typically you'll see them attack anything that would've spoken to his intoxication. The administration of the tests, chain of custody, etc.... Things that would call into question the admissibility of the evidence and/or its reliability.

I just don't know that it matters much here. Drunk or not, 127 in a residential neighborhood is about as 'reckless and indifferent' as it gets.

If ever there was a case where the blurry legal line should be crossed, its something like this

Fastest I've ever been was 120 or so on a wide open, almost deserted interstate... it starts to get very scary, very quickly, things are quite literally moving too fast to confidently deal with for very long

Bumping up that speed another 36 mph on a residential street in town, is just sooo beyond any bounds and constraints of reason, that it well and truly defies my imagination... drunk or not, those are the actions of a stone cold maniac who needs to go away for a LONG time

Herewego 11-03-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15932715)
still time to win that auction for a signed henry ruggs III raiders jersey

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28451484621...YAAOSwc-Jhgoh0

80 bucks ROFL

Could be a collector's item someday.

Bump 11-03-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15932727)
On a res street no less. Speechless.

ya, absolutely despicable

Titty Meat 11-03-2021 05:14 PM

Was reading about Leonard Little because I've seen others bring him up online. He was only going 45 but that terrible human had the nerve to say "that bitch shouldnt have ran a yellow light" AND the same mother ****er got ANOTHER DUI in 2004. Forgive me for not having much faith that Ruggs will get a harsh sentence.

Bugeater 11-03-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15932695)
Most jurisdictions recognize a 2nd degree murder charge for conduct that demonstrates reckless indifference to life and in the process leads to a foreseeable death.

It's sometimes called depraved or wanton heart murder.

Man, if this doesn't qualify, I'm not sure what does.

Not sure if Vegas recognizes it or if the penalties for it are any different than the 2-20 under the DUI/Homicide charge he's been hit with.

In either event, it really kicks the legs out from under the defense's stool here. Typically you'll see them attack anything that would've spoken to his intoxication. The administration of the tests, chain of custody, etc.... Things that would call into question the admissibility of the evidence and/or its reliability.

I just don't know that it matters much here. Drunk or not, 127 in a residential neighborhood is about as 'reckless and indifferent' as it gets.

That 127 was at the point of impact. 156 seconds before...

KCJake 11-03-2021 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15932703)
It really shouldn't at this point.

What's the benefit?

It looks like the sentence for 2nd degree murder (the depraved heart murder I discussed above) is 25 years w/ the possibility of parole after 10.

If you're Ruggs lawyers and can get 10 years with no parole, I think you're wise to take them up on that offer. Plead no contest to the DUI/Homicide charge, keep 2nd degree murder off the table and lock in your sentencing.

10 years ?? No way he does 10 years

KCJake 11-03-2021 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15932669)
I think that I saw a charge of recklessness causing death (which certainly would be justified here without the DUI) would be 2-5 years.

Girl I know ran a stop sign killed a guy. 3 years probation no jail time. Ruggs does 4 years, released early for good behavior. Cowboys sign him

Titty Meat 11-03-2021 05:35 PM

He should do 20 but I think since he doesnt have a record he's going to get off lighter than we think

Bugeater 11-03-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 15932796)
Girl I know ran a stop sign killed a guy. 3 years probation no jail time. Ruggs does 4 years, released early for good behavior. Cowboys sign him

I'm going to assume you're new to the conversation and aren't aware that he was drunk, driving 156mph in a 25 zone, and the lady he crashed into burned to death in her car.

MIAdragon 11-03-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15932800)
I'm going to assume you're new to the conversation and aren't aware that he was drunk, driving 156mph in a 25 zone, and the lady he crashed into burned to death in her car.

He’s ****ed and rightfully so.


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