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Chief Roundup 03-04-2023 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16837380)
Still waiting for you to show me where anyone said the BS you made up....I won't hold my breath.

BWillie 03-04-2023 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16837282)
I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”
Or skyy moore

kccrow 03-04-2023 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16837027)
It’s funny how mad Abba is getting. I personally consider Moss the GOAT even over Rice and I’ve never compared Moss to Hopkins. If you look back Abba, I was saying the NFL script writers are repeating themselves haha. Moss killed it in Minny, traded to Raiders and it didn’t work out, then traded to the Pats and cemented his HOF career.

Hopkins killed it in Houston, traded to the Cards and it hasn’t worked out, then he will be traded at the same age Moss was and it could be to the Chiefs(current NFL Pats) and would hopefully get Mahomes that undefeated season…

BUT if you wanna talk numbers. At the same age, Hopkins has better numbers in everything expect TDs which Moss is the king. All other numbers Hopkins is better than Moss at both age 30 and pre Pats for Moss.
What?

Hopkins has 11,298 yards. Moss at the same age had 12,627 yards. Last time I checked that's Moss + 1,329 yards.

Hopkins has 853 receptions. Moss had 802.

Hopkins has 71 TDs. Moss had 127.

So outside of receptions, Moss had him beaten significantly in every other category.

To note, I'm not trying to take anything from D-Hop, he's a good WR. I think if the draft compensation were the same as the Moss trade to New England, I'd be on board with it. I'm not on board for a 2nd round pick.

Pitt Gorilla 03-04-2023 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16837282)
I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”
I've maintained all along that I trust Bert to make the right decision for the team. If that's trading for Hopkins, so be it.

If, OTOH, he'd prefer to invest that capital in a Jalin Hyatt (or whomever), then I'll take that as well. This is a DEEP draft and we're well-armed.

Not sure why anyone would be crying either way.

BWillie 03-04-2023 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16837437)
What?

Hopkins has 11,298 yards. Moss at the same age had 12,627 yards. Last time I checked that's Moss + 1,329 yards.

Hopkins has 853 receptions. Moss had 802.

Hopkins has 71 TDs. Moss had 127.

So outside of receptions, Moss had him beaten significantly in every other category.

To note, I'm not trying to take anything from D-Hop, he's a good WR. I think if the draft compensation were the same as the Moss trade to New England, I'd be on board with it. I'm not on board for a 2nd round pick.
Would you trade Skyy Moore for Dhop straight up?

kccrow 03-04-2023 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16837444)
Would you trade Skyy Moore for Dhop straight up?
No, I wouldn't.

Would you bring in D-Hop to replace Hardman's role?

Probably not. Why would you take away the guy that was brought in to do exactly that?

TwistedChief 03-04-2023 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16837451)
No, I wouldn't.

Would you bring in D-Hop to replace Hardman's role?

Probably not. Why would you take away the guy that was brought in to do exactly that?
I think we might have Toney for that role…

bigjosh 03-04-2023 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16837439)
I've maintained all along that I trust Bert to make the right decision for the team. If that's trading for Hopkins, so be it.

If, OTOH, he'd prefer to invest that capital in a Jalin Hyatt (or whomever), then I'll take that as well. This is a DEEP draft and we're well-armed.

Not sure why anyone would be crying either way.

Im with you.

There seems to be some posters here that would be mad about the move.

I dont care one way or another, i trust veach will make the right decision.

I dont like people acting like Dhop is some shitty hasbeen that wouldnt be worth the investment.

bigjosh 03-04-2023 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16837331)
Who is crying?
Do you have a problem working the keyboard correctly?

You said he was looking for a raise in guarantees and base salary.

I replied that 20m guaranteed per year would be a raise against his zero guaranteed base salaries of 19m and 14m the next two seasons.

I dont know what the **** you would like me to prove

kccrow 03-04-2023 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16837458)
I think we might have Toney for that role…
I don't think so, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Megatron96 03-04-2023 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16837465)
Im with you.

There seems to be some posters here that would be mad about the move.

I dont care one way or another, i trust veach will make the right decision.

I dont like people acting like Dhop is some shitty hasbeen that wouldnt be worth the investment.
Lol, just wait.

In a week or so DHop will be injury-prone on a level worse than Sammy ever was. Despite the fact that DHop has had just one serious injury in his entire career, he'll be branded a leper, or worse And he didn't reinjure that knee this season, but had an MCL tear (not nearly as serious), that's already been repaired and the expectation is that he'll be fully functional in about two months.

But CP will have him getting the knee amputated before April. And his collarbone will fall off.

Around May, DHop will be the inventor of COVID. With a pegleg and a missing collarbone.

The offseason is fun!

bigjosh 03-04-2023 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16837473)
I don't think so, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Yeah, i dont think hardmans role is what toney projects as.

I do think that hardmans role is easily replaced with any burner in the draft/free agency.


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Megatron96 03-04-2023 06:33 PM
Toney can do several of the things that Hardman has done, just not everything. Anything that has to do with sheer top speed isn't really Toney's thing. But that could be replaced in the draft, and many if not most of the WRs the Chiefs have a realistic shot at just happen to be those speed merchant type WRs.

bigjosh 03-04-2023 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16837483)
Toney can do several of the things that Hardman has done, just not everything. Anything that has to do with sheer top speed isn't really Toney's thing. But that could be replaced in the draft, and many if not most of the WRs the Chiefs have a realistic shot at just happen to be those speed merchant type WRs.

Yeah, I honestly dont think hardmans contributions would be that difficult to replace in the mid rounds of the draft.


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Megatron96 03-04-2023 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16837485)
Yeah, I honestly dont think hardmans contributions would be that difficult to replace in the mid rounds of the draft.


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Probably. And I like Mecole. Wanted to keep him through 2023. But at the end of the day, he's got one elite talent, and that's speed. Everything else is average to good. And there's no shortage of those kinds of WRs in the draft. At this point, it probably isn't financially prudent to spend more on Hardman.


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