Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465018)

If you had to choose, do you root Jays or Orioles in the Wildcard game tomorrow?

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465163)

Your obsession with PB is unhealthy.

Did he hurt your feelings?

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12465163)

Your obsession with PB is unhealthy.

Did he hurt your feelings?

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)

Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465003)

Fangraphs lights up Hoz again. I doubt many will read the defensive explanations so no point even arguing it any more, but now his baserunning metrics have fallen near the bottom of MLB too:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-t...00-rbi-season/



In other news, how badly did we miss Cueto and Zo? Obv great players that outsized this market, we weren't going to keep them but....Cueto finished 4th in pitching fWAR at 5.5, Zo at 4.1. We got almost nothing from 2B and our rotation, so you can say a net loss of -8 wins. 89 gets a playoff spot.


Also Moose losing 3 fWAR from last year to Cuthbert a replacement player mattered, that's basically all you need to explain the gap from 2015. Those 3, we make the playoffs.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12465364)

Hosmer's defense definitely took a step back this year. I'm done talking about Fangraphs 1B metrics, though, so I'll leave that alone. Baseball Ref's figures judge Hosmer much less harshly on baserunning than Fangraphs, which is weird. I thought they lined up pretty well on those, in the past.

Cueto was a replacement level player for KC in 2015, whose best performances were in the playoffs. They survive without that if a few other guys - Volquez, most notably, but Chris Young, too - don't fall completely off the table.

Zobrist definitely was missed. His offensive prowess would have made a big difference for KC.

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12465441)

Soria's WAR in '16 was 0.5. How isn't that a negative number?

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 12465199)

The only pleasure I get from watching tomorrow's game is knowing that the redemption both teams seek is due to the pain we inflicted on them.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465485)

I see 0.0

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12465485)

I see 0.0

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12465054)

Answer the question!

And I can't root for Canada anything. Go Orioles.