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petegz28 09-13-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9971333)
Then I think you're using pretty bad criteria to judge.

Because you've essentially thrown Big Ben and Eli in the dumpster. Those two guys are really erratic regular season QBs.

I don't think Ben or Eli are the caliber of QB that Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady are.

chiefzilla1501 09-13-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9971434)
I don't think Ben or Eli are the caliber of QB that Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady are.

And you are completely wrong.

RealSNR 09-13-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9971056)
So, you truly believe that people would be pissed and/or turned off by Kaepernick, Wilson, Newton, Dalton, Luck or Griffin?

Again, there's a HUGE difference between being a young, NFL ready QB and a guy that's NOT NFL ready, yet thrust into a starting position.

Not on Andrew Luck or RGIII, simply because the media told them they were once-in-a-lifetime prospects.

And Wilson was a middle rounder who beat the odds. They love that shit. God, they love that shit. Wilson would do well here.

Everybody else they'd treat like crap. But that's beside the point. Young QBs who are exceptional aren't the issue, because that's all this franchise seems to care about. If the QB prospect they need doesn't possess once-in-a-decade type of talent, they don't want to spend any kind of time or draft stock in him.

I guarantee you if the Chiefs had drafted Joe Flacco in 2008, true fans would hate his guts. Until he won the Super Bowl that is, and even then he got paid a huge contract. Every loss means he's a lazy dumbass jock who's ripping the team off.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9971471)
I guarantee you if the Chiefs had drafted Joe Flacco in 2008, true fans would hate his guts. Until he won the Super Bowl that is, and even then he got paid a huge contract. Every loss means he's a lazy dumbass jock who's ripping the team off.

I completely disagree.

The Chiefs were 2-14 in 2008 and lost a shit ton of games by seven points or less. If the Chiefs had chosen Flacco and Clady, I think it's safe to assume that they would have won a minimum of five games with a max of eight. Seeing Flacco toss the ball around to Gonzalez and Bowe in year one would have satiated most of the Chiefs fan base.

Hell, I had friends that were season ticket holders wondering why Thigpen wasn't the unquestioned starter in 2009, so I'm fairly confident Flacco would be accepted.

Serious question: Do you have family and friends in KC and how often do you visit and chat?

Your opinion is way out of line with my friends and family.

RealSNR 09-13-2013 08:44 PM

If Alex Smith puts up his usual sub 20s TDs, low 3000 yard, riding elite defense and running game type of season and botches in the playoffs, I will be eagerly awaiting the draft.

I'd love nothing more than to see Andy Reid spend a high draft pick on a QB just to watch the fan reaction.

These idiots would hate it. Instead of celebrating a momentous occasion in Chiefs history, I guarangoddamntee cries of, "We lost in the playoffs because Alex Smith didn't have enough protection! Get him a better offensive line for crying out loud! Draft a receiver who doesn't drop the ball like that chump Dwayne Bowe! You suck Reid!"

It was the exact same shit when Carl and Vermeil were praised for taking Derrick Johnson over Aaron Rodgers. And really, the same should be pointed out when we picked Ryan Sims over Joey Harrington.

And I'm just as guilty as everyone else. I thought Derrick Johnson was the steal of the draft, and I supported Vermeil 100% on the Ryan Sims selection.

Not to shit on DJ. He's ****ing awesome. But he's not a QB.

DeezNutz 09-13-2013 08:46 PM

Chiefs fans would have lost their ****ing minds had we drafted a "second-round prospect" out of Delaware in the first round.

Holy shit.

beach tribe 09-13-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9971471)
Not on Andrew Luck or RGIII, simply because the media told them they were once-in-a-lifetime prospects.

And Wilson was a middle rounder who beat the odds. They love that shit. God, they love that shit. Wilson would do well here.

Everybody else they'd treat like crap. But that's beside the point. Young QBs who are exceptional aren't the issue, because that's all this franchise seems to care about. If the QB prospect they need doesn't possess once-in-a-decade type of talent, they don't want to spend any kind of time or draft stock in him.

I guarantee you if the Chiefs had drafted Joe Flacco in 2008, true fans would hate his guts. Until he won the Super Bowl that is, and even then he got paid a huge contract. Every loss means he's a lazy dumbass jock who's ripping the team off.

Im pretty sure you are wrong about just about everything in this post.

True fans are ballwashers by nature, and will give whoever is under center their undying support.

Your reasoning behind why TFs would hate Flacco is....what exactly?

Youre not seriously suggesting that TFs would hate him because they used a 1st on him?

beach tribe 09-13-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9971490)
If Alex Smith puts up his usual sub 20s TDs, low 3000 yard, riding elite defense and running game type of season and botches in the playoffs, I will be eagerly awaiting the draft.

I'd love nothing more than to see Andy Reid spend a high draft pick on a QB just to watch the fan reaction.

These idiots would hate it.


Your mind is rurnt.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9971497)
Chiefs fans would have lost their ****ing minds had we drafted a "second-round prospect" out of Delaware in the first round.

Holy shit.

Until they saw him play.

It's really weird: You actually live there but your POV is far outside the typical KC resident and fan.

ChiefsCountry 09-13-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9971503)
Until they saw him play.

It's really weird: You actually live there but your POV is far outside the typical KC resident and fan.

People on here still think Flacco sucks.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9971490)
If Alex Smith puts up his usual sub 20s TDs, low 3000 yard, riding elite defense and running game type of season and botches in the playoffs, I will be eagerly awaiting the draft.

I'd love nothing more than to see Andy Reid spend a high draft pick on a QB just to watch the fan reaction.

These idiots would hate it. Instead of celebrating a momentous occasion in Chiefs history, I guarangoddamntee cries of, "We lost in the playoffs because Alex Smith didn't have enough protection! Get him a better offensive line for crying out loud! Draft a receiver who doesn't drop the ball like that chump Dwayne Bowe! You suck Reid!"

It was the exact same shit when Carl and Vermeil were praised for taking Derrick Johnson over Aaron Rodgers. And really, the same should be pointed out when we picked Ryan Sims over Joey Harrington.

And I'm just as guilty as everyone else. I thought Derrick Johnson was the steal of the draft, and I supported Vermeil 100% on the Ryan Sims selection.

Not to shit on DJ. He's ****ing awesome. But he's not a QB.

PS- It's a team sport.

vailpass 09-13-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9971488)
I completely disagree.

The Chiefs were 2-14 in 2008 and lost a shit ton of games by seven points or less. If the Chiefs had chosen Flacco and Clady, I think it's safe to assume that they would have won a minimum of five games with a max of eight. Seeing Flacco toss the ball around to Gonzalez and Bowe in year one would have satiated most of the Chiefs fan base.

Hell, I had friends that were season ticket holders wondering why Thigpen wasn't the unquestioned starter in 2009, so I'm fairly confident Flacco would be accepted.

Serious question: Do you have family and friends in KC and how often do you visit and chat?

Your opinion is way out of line with my friends and family.

Thank God you didn't draft those two, you'd have been set for years.

beach tribe 09-13-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9971497)
Chiefs fans would have lost their ****ing minds had we drafted a "second-round prospect" out of Delaware in the first round.

Holy shit.

Dude, Chiefs fans find a way to justify 5 techs at 3 and shit.

Im sure the outrage over a QB that Mayock and everyone slobbed over on draft day would have sent everyone into mass hysteria.

DeezNutz 09-13-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9971503)
Until they saw him play.

It's really weird: You actually live there but your POV is far outside the typical KC resident and fan.

Thank you.

Chiefs fans on this board still think Flacco is mediocre.

DaneMcCloud 09-13-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9971505)
People on here still think Flacco sucks.

The 300 or so people that actively post on Chiefsplanet are in no way, shape or form, representative of the Chiefs fan base.


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