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RobBlake 12-30-2016 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12649635)
Yeah, I'm sure Aaron would have turned out wonderfully for that shit-show Franchise. ROFL

Aaron would not have survived or developed in that system and OL. IDK if alex sitting like Aaron would have saved his arm from getting shattered or made him so gun shy.. but would have helped.

Marcellus 12-30-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12649640)
It's pretty moronic at this point to call Alex a terrible QB at this point. He's proven he can play the position. He's not elite, but he's on the upper tier of Qbs who can win games with his style of play. People hate his style of play more than anything. With him at qb you will always have a team the will have a competitive year.





We didn't draft rodgers because he was "too cocky".. morons.

Bingo. He isn't a world beater, he needs players around him and he can win with the right combo.

It is a fine line but if you look at the last 6 years of his career now there is a pattern of success.

I get a little riled up when a fan of a loser franchise like SD calls Smith "less than mediocre".

**** them and their cry baby bitch QB.

RunKC 12-30-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12649366)
Im not an Alex Smith apologist, I just think some people are factually full of shit and need called on it.

Please do tell why SD is such a bad team then? Here is your canned response -

Injuries
Coaching

Well shit the bed dude, thank God the Chiefs haven't had any injuries this season.

Coaching? Thank God Reid doesn't make any mind numbing coaching decisions.

You know what more baffling than Smith apologist?

Chiefs fans who make excuse after excuse after excuse for a team like SD and bitch incessantly at the success of their own players and team.

That is ****ing bizarre.

And on the subject of stupidity, observing our interaction the last few days its fairly evident you cant even ****ing read.

BTW Rivers is one of the league leaders in turnovers and INT's yet again, but Im am sure he bears no responsibility in that.

Put Alex Smith in SD the last 5 years and they have top 10 picks every year. Rivers has willed that shit team to 8-9 wins from 2010-2013. The last 2 years they have had the most injuries in the league. And yes the difference in coaching between McCoy and Reid is the size of the Atlantic.

Marcellus 12-30-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12649652)
Put Alex Smith in SD the last 5 years and they have top 10 picks every year. Rivers has willed that shit team to 8-9 wins from 2010-2013. The last 2 years they have had the most injuries in the league. And yes the difference in coaching between McCoy and Reid is the size of the Atlantic.

Bull ****ing shit. But its sure fun to just make shit up.

Lets live in reality which is the last 4 years.

RobBlake 12-30-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12649648)
Bingo. He isn't a world beater, he needs players around him and he can win with the right combo.

It is a fine line but if you look at the last 6 years of his career now there is a pattern of success.

I get a little riled up when a fan of a loser franchise like SD calls Smith "less than mediocre".

**** them and their cry baby bitch QB.

Rivers has strong abilities.. but at what point do you not put the team on your back and just get it done? I think he's overrated. Honestly, i've watched Alex prob more than many of these posters and he's come a hell of s long way. I actually really enjoy his style of play when he's on and the play calls are consistent.. it's fun football. I believe thats where the fine line is.. because if he's not on.. the offense will struggle immensely

RobBlake 12-30-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12649652)
Put Alex Smith in SD the last 5 years and they have top 10 picks every year. Rivers has willed that shit team to 8-9 wins from 2010-2013. The last 2 years they have had the most injuries in the league. And yes the difference in coaching between McCoy and Reid is the size of the Atlantic.

hell no. SD has had way better weapons until recently.

RunKC 12-30-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12649653)
Bull ****ing shit. But its sure fun to just make shit up.

Lets live in reality which is the last 4 years.

Norv Turner and Mike McCoy are bottom feeder HC's and you're high if you think scoring as few TD's as Alex does would will that team.
They gave up 30 points 6X in 2012 alone.

Alex has to have a top 10 defense to succeed.

Marcellus 12-30-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12649687)
Norv Turner and Mike McCoy are bottom feeder HC's and you're high if you think scoring as few TD's as Alex does would will that team.
They gave up 30 points 6X in 2012 alone.

Alex has to have a top 10 defense to succeed.

We dont have a top 10 defense right now numbnuts and Alex wasn't in KC in 2012. WTF does 2012 have to do with anything?

stevieray 12-30-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12649687)
Norv Turner and Mike McCoy are bottom feeder HC's and you're high if you think scoring as few TD's as Alex does would will that team.
They gave up 30 points 6X in 2012 alone.

Alex has to have a top 10 defense to succeed.

..as did Manning last year.

bummer for you to be a fan of the Kansas City Alex's

RobBlake 12-30-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12649687)
Norv Turner and Mike McCoy are bottom feeder HC's and you're high if you think scoring as few TD's as Alex does would will that team.
They gave up 30 points 6X in 2012 alone.

Alex has to have a top 10 defense to succeed.

Alex had one of his best seasons under Norv Tuner

Marcellus 12-30-2016 06:13 PM

Hey guys KC's defense gave up 30 points in 6 of the last 8 games in 2003.

GoChargers 12-30-2016 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12649623)
We have finished ahead of SD all 4 seasons Smith has been our QB, we have lost EB, JC, Houston, Hali, and many many other players for extensive periods of time.

So are you saying for 4 consecutive seasons SD has injury as an excuse for not being able to finish ahead of KC?

Our less than mediocre QB owns your asses.

We've had more players on IR by the end of all 4 seasons than the Chiefs.

2013: Chargers 10, Chiefs 3
2014: Chargers 14, Chiefs 10
2015: Chargers 18, Chiefs 11
2016 (in progress): Chargers 23(!), Chiefs 12

McCoy and Pagano have been here all four years. Whiz has been here for two of them - in the other two, the offense was mismanaged by fellow idiot Frank Reich.

The injury bug and inept coaching have been consistent issues for the Chargers (and, thus, Rivers) for the past four years. They aren't the only factors, of course. Until last year, Telesco's drafting was extremely inconsistent. He's also yet to make a big-money signing or re-signing that has worked out, other than extending Rivers. Plus, the Chiefs have been the hands-down better team the last two years (which still doesn't make Alex the better QB). But that doesn't mean injuries and coaching haven't been factors.

Rivers has been handed chickenshit to work with by our bumbling excuse for a franchise lately, and he has done everything he can to turn it into chicken salad. In the last two years, the team around him has degenerated to the point where even an elite QB playing out of his mind can only drag them to 4 or 5 wins. It's easy to blame Rivers. But as a fan who watches every game, it's really a systemic failure to build a winner around one of the elite QBs in this league. I wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true.

Regardless, Alex Smith isn't viewed as a below-average QB because of how he matches up against one of the most poorly-run organizations in sports. He's viewed as below average because, despite having a stacked offense around him, he's put up fewer touchdowns than guys like Brock Osweiler, Colin Kaepernick, and Trevor Siemian. He's thrown for fewer yards per game than Sam Bradford or Blake Bortles. And he's led his stacked offense to a decidedly average 23.5 points per game (15th in the league). That's not the type of production you'd hope to get from a QB with weapons like Kelce, Hill, and Maclin in the passing game.

RunKC 12-30-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12649697)
We dont have a top 10 defense right now numbnuts and Alex wasn't in KC in 2012. WTF does 2012 have to do with anything?

We're 5th in points allowed...ya know the thing you need to put on the board to win games.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2016 06:16 PM

People bitching about Alex Smith, especially in 2016, are ****ing drooling morons. Alex Smith is a Franchise QB. Period. End of story. He's led SIX straight teams to winning records, making the playoffs 5 out of those 6 season. He led the Chiefs to their first playoff win since the 1993 season and did everything possible in a 44-45 loss in Indy back in 2013.

What Alex Smith isnt? A Hall of Fame QB. Not even close at this point.

Anyone that's bitching about Smith doesn't want a Franchise QB, they want a Hall of Fame QB. A Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Rothlisberger type of QB.

It's ****ing reeruned that these same people don't understand the difference.

RobBlake 12-30-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 12649708)
We've had more players on IR by the end of all 4 seasons than the Chiefs.

2013: Chargers 10, Chiefs 3
2014: Chargers 14, Chiefs 10
2015: Chargers 18, Chiefs 11
2016 (in progress): Chargers 23(!), Chiefs 12

McCoy and Pagano have been here all four years. Whiz has been here for two of them - in the other two, the offense was mismanaged by fellow idiot Frank Reich.

The injury bug and inept coaching have been consistent issues for the Chargers (and, thus, Rivers) for the past four years. They aren't the only factors, of course. Until last year, Telesco's drafting was extremely inconsistent. He's also yet to make a big-money signing or re-signing that has worked out, other than extending Rivers. Plus, the Chiefs have been the hands-down better team the last two years (which still doesn't make Alex the better QB). But that doesn't mean injuries and coaching haven't been factors.

Rivers has been handed chickenshit to work with by our bumbling excuse for a franchise lately, and he has done everything he can to turn it into chicken salad. In the last two years, the team around him has degenerated to the point where even an elite QB playing out of his mind can only drag them to 4 or 5 wins. It's easy to blame Rivers. But as a fan who watches every game, it's really a systemic failure to build a winner around one of the elite QBs in this league. I wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't true.

Regardless, Alex Smith isn't viewed as a below-average QB because of how he matches up against one of the most poorly-run organizations in sports. He's viewed as below average because, despite having a stacked offense around him, he's put up fewer touchdowns than guys like Brock Osweiler, Colin Kaepernick, and Trevor Siemian. He's thrown for fewer yards per game than Sam Bradford or Blake Bortles. And he's led his stacked offense to a decidedly average 23.5 points per game (15th in the league). That's not the type of production you'd hope to get from a QB with weapons like Kelce, Hill, and Maclin in the passing game.


Yet, Bortles is looking to be benched/replaced, Kaepernick is looking to be replaced/benched/Siemian is about to be benched/ Osweiler same. So, football is obviously more than just a "stat" game. All of which you said is just bullshit. There's a lot of things that go in to moving the ball in the NFL.


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