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AdolfOliverBush 12-01-2022 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16637057)
Probably not smart for a DB with a 125 passer rating against to talk shit against the team with the best WR in the league..
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16636497)
these mother****ers LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a bit misleading. You need to add the context that he is the 4th least targeted safety in the league and is tied for the 3rd fewest catches allowed (per PFF). Simply using those stats, you ignore every snap where his coverage was good enough that the QB went elsewhere.</p>&mdash; Luke Seidl (@SeidlLuke) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeidlLuke/status/1598103892738596864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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staylor26 12-01-2022 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16637057)
Probably not smart for a DB with a 125 passer rating against to talk shit against the team with the best WR in the league..
:facepalm:

tredadda 12-01-2022 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16636931)
And the Bengals OL is still trash.

That said - Burrow is really good against the blitz and we don't get a ton of pressure from our front 4.

So, just as we said TWICE last year, it's a game where the DL absolutely has to make a difference. Karlaftis, Jones, Saunders and Clark need to get themselves in the box score somehow.

They've gotta make things uncomfortable for Burrow without sending extra guys because he handles the blitz just like you're taught. And when he does it, those WRs can get the ball in space and make a big play out of it.

C'mon DL - do your thing.
They just have to blitz sparingly and hopefully get to him before he can chuck it to Chase and crew.

tredadda 12-01-2022 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16636922)
Despite this, they’re still middle of the pack in coverage and near the bottom of the league in pass rush.

Chiefs are the best passing attack in the league with one of the best OLs. Bengals haven’t seen a challenge even close to this all year.
Keep in mind they have done this by playing against some of the best defenses in the league. SF hasn’t given up a second half point since KC beat them down weeks ago. They are elite unless matched up against the KC offense led by Mahomes and Reid.

htismaqe 12-01-2022 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16637072)
Keep in mind they have done this by playing against some of the best defenses in the league. SF hasn’t given up a second half point since KC beat them down weeks ago. They are elite unless matched up against the KC offense led by Mahomes and Reid.
The Bucs defense has given up 16.2ppg and hasn't given up more than 27 all year.

If you don't count the 41 they gave up to the Chiefs.

smithandrew051 12-01-2022 10:16 AM
The big reason you can’t just compare stats is because stats have zero context.

When you add context to the defensive stats for both teams (yardage is similar, points are similar, sacks and other pass rushing stats favor the Chiefs heavily), the Chiefs numbers look better and the Bengals numbers look significantly worse.

And yes, I’m only comparing the defenses. If you can’t slow Mahomes and co down a little, you have no shot. Even when your offense plays well, it doesn’t matter. Mahomes has another level that no one else can reach.

Even walking off the field with a 3 point lead and 13 seconds with the number 1 defense doesn’t matter when Mahomes can do what he wants.

HC_Chief 12-01-2022 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16637077)
The big reason you can’t just compare stats is because stats have zero context.

When you add context to the defensive stats for both teams (yardage is similar, points are similar, sacks and other pass rushing stats favor the Chiefs heavily), the Chiefs numbers look better and the Bengals numbers look significantly worse.

And yes, I’m only comparing the defenses. If you can’t slow Mahomes and co down a little, you have no shot. Even when your offense plays well, it doesn’t matter. Mahomes has another level that no one else can reach.

Even walking off the field with a 3 point lead and 13 seconds with the number 1 defense doesn’t matter when Mahomes can do what he wants.
Mahomes & Co stopped themselves last year x2. Credit the butt****ing bungles for changing something up to throw them off, because it happened twice, but we all know that was more on our guys than on them. The offense simply has to play four quarters, and they will obliterate these pretender shitstains.

louie aguiar 12-01-2022 10:19 AM
Bart Scott always picks against us. Didn’t he predict we would miss the playoffs this year?

Lzen 12-01-2022 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16635768)
I’ve been saying it for 7 months now, but I think Burt’s 2022 draft was all about this team.
I wouldn't go that far. But yes, they did expose our weaknesses. And yes, Veach addressed a lot of those through the draft and FA. That's why I think those Bengals fans are in for a surprise. This defense is better and the offense is more diverse.

And one thing about that AFC Champ game is that Mahomes locked in on Tyreek and Kelce. This year, he has been spreading it around a lot more.

I'm not saying this game couldn't be close. As we've seen, some teams just seem to match up better or play better against us. And they are the defending AFC Champs, not some bumbs. This won't be easy. But I'm willing to bet that Patrick comes out with a focus like no other. And when he plays like that, we are damn near impossible to beat.

Mecca 12-01-2022 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16636976)
Ok. Noted.

I expect to see the same comments when some other idiot gives the Chiefs some bulletin board material.
The Chiefs basically can't give bulletin board material, every team they play is massively up for the game because the Chiefs are the measuring stick.

Mecca 12-01-2022 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16637083)
I wouldn't go that far. But yes, they did expose our weaknesses. And yes, Veach addressed a lot of those through the draft and FA. That's why I think those Bengals fans are in for a surprise. This defense is better and the offense is more diverse.

And one thing about that AFC Champ game is that Mahomes locked in on Tyreek and Kelce. This year, he has been spreading it around a lot more.

I'm not saying this game couldn't be close. As we've seen, some teams just seem to match up better or play better against us. And they are the defending AFC Champs, not some bumbs. This won't be easy. But I'm willing to bet that Patrick comes out with a focus like no other. And when he plays like that, we are damn near impossible to beat.
The thing is the Chargers have personnel to give us issues, the Titans style gives us issues, the Bengals have neither, we literally just gave those games away.

HC_Chief 12-01-2022 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16637081)
Bart Scott always picks against us. Didn’t he predict we would miss the playoffs this year?
Yep. He is a dumber Skip Bayless. Less annoying, but in same category of dipshit.

RunKC 12-01-2022 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16637075)
The Bucs defense has given up 16.2ppg and hasn't given up more than 27 all year.

If you don't count the 41 they gave up to the Chiefs.
I expect Andy to have a nice little bag of tricks set up for this game after what they did to us last year.

There was probably a whole section in his notebook of play designs for this game that they haven’t seen yet.

Lzen 12-01-2022 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16636259)
There were even comments about how great Chiefs fans were at Arrowhead for the AFCCG, and being mind-blown by the difference.

Stop over-moderating for a few years and find out for yourselves.. :shrug:

This.....this all day.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2022 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16637075)
The Bucs defense has given up 16.2ppg and hasn't given up more than 27 all year.

If you don't count the 41 they gave up to the Chiefs.
49ers D against Chiefs: 44 points

49ers D since: 40 points


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