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My hopes for this season are resting on the fact that we're only 2.5 out with such shit-tastic seasons from Hosmer, Butler, Infante, Aoki, and Moustakas. Honestly it's a miracle that we are where we are, and that we've managed to go 9-4 against the Cards, Jays, Yankees, and Indians.

If statistical trends are true, all should improve as the season progresses. And honestly, other than Davis/Holland, nobody's performing so well that they'll slump out badly.

Maybe we're just one of those teams who plays to the level of our competition?

Our pitching staff is the only reason we are one game over .500. I don't think anybody expected them to be this good.

Mother****erJones

06-12-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10686541)

I'll be at the game tomorrow night so it's almost a guaranteed loss.

Have fun man, love the Cell.

Mother****erJones

06-12-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10686687)

Since trades are being brought up, one I have been thinking about for a while for the Royals that could make some sense for them is with the Padres.

Chase Headley
Carlos Quentin

3rd base and right fielder. Both have been hurt this year, thus numbers are down but for the right price they could be enough to push the Royals over the hump into the playoffs.

As much as I love CQ because he was a White Sox, stay away. Injury plagued.

CaliforniaChief

06-12-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10687216)

Our pitching staff is the only reason we are one game over .500. I don't think anybody expected them to be this good.

The only starter who's been better than I expected is Vargas.

Shields has been slightly disappointing.
Guthrie has sucked.
Ventura has been good, but I thought he would be this good.
Duffy's been up and down.

TLO	06-12-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10687224)

Guthrie hasn't sucked.

CaliforniaChief

06-12-2014 04:32 PM

He's by far at his worst since joining the Royals. His WHIP, HR rate, ERA are all elevated.

C3HIEF3S

06-12-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10687238)

He's by far at his worst since joining the Royals. His WHIP, HR rate, ERA are all elevated.

This isn't true at all.
His ERA and WHIP right now are both better than his career averages.

He is a #4 starter who will get you around a 4 ERA and 200 innings pitched. You take that all day.

C3HIEF3S

06-12-2014 04:42 PM

And not to mention the guy isn't getting any younger, he is obviously going to have some decline, but he hasn't fallen straight off of a cliff.

CaliforniaChief

06-12-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10687261)

This isn't true at all.
His ERA and WHIP right now are both better than his career averages.

He is a #4 starter who will get you around a 4 ERA and 200 innings pitched. You take that all day.

His ERA with the Royals was:
Year 1: 3.16
Year 2: 4.04
Year 3: 4.10

You are correct that it's better than career averages, my statement was that it's his worst with the Royals.

My point is that really except for Vargas, none of our other starters are really outperforming the norm in a way that we could expect a "market correction."

I know what Guthrie is, and it still is a great trade that GMDM made to get him considering the dumpster fire we gave up in exchange. But he's not lights-out compared to expectations...and several of our position players are well below what I think we can reasonably expect, the reason for my optimism.

BigCatDaddy

06-12-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10687224)

With the Royals defense and stadium I figured Vargas would have a better ERA than previous years. I was thinking maybe 3.5ish

Three7s

06-12-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10687289)

With the Royals defense and stadium I figured Vargas would have a better ERA than previous years. I was thinking maybe 3.5ish

The main issue with Vargas is that he'll throw too many changeups to righties and leave it up and it gets crushed. Most of his ERA is off of homers.

Prison Bitch

06-12-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 10687062)

Do you like anyone on the team? You seem to gripe about Butler, Moose, Hosmer, Infante, Aoki, Escobar, etc quite regularly. Maybe Gordon and Salvy have been spared, but damn. If I just read your posts alone, I would think we were on pace to be the 2013 Houston Astros.

Are you projecting, perhaps? Were you the Chris Getz of little league and wear a pink tutu to a game and get laughed off the team (re:avid homophobia)?

I don't like the offense, but at 83 OPS nobody should. Pitching and def are very good like last year.

Deberg_1990

06-12-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10687375)

I don't like the offense, but at 83 OPS nobody should. Pitching and def are very good like last year.

no one would be complaining about our pitching much of we had a "true" AL lineup with power.

Mother****erJones

06-12-2014 06:10 PM

Should be a good series this weekend. Sox are 16-11 in the division meanwhile the Royals are 8-15.

Bowser

06-12-2014 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10687392)

Should be a good series this weekend. Sox are 16-11 in the division meanwhile the Royals are 8-15.

I'd guess that at least 10 of those losses are of the one run variety. It's losses like those that bite you in the ass at the end of the year.

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