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Red Gorilla 09-18-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9990058)
Philly is going to beat us a few times snapping the ball off before our D gets in position watch and see.

Don't be surprised to see Berry used as the "star" a lot in this game. He will basically be used as a hybrid LB and spy on Vick. His #1 job will be to stop the read option whether it be Vick or McCoy. Auburn beat Oregon in the National Championship running variations of the nickel all day. LSU did the same thing the next year. Les Miles even practiced for the read option without a ball. Every guy just went to their assigned man. Our base defense will probably be the nickel in Philly. It matches up best against that offense and you can rotate DBs quickly. I could really see this happening.

Sorter 09-18-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9990041)
Nice post Direckshun. I like the way you refer to "down Linemen." You obviously know what you are talking about and I appreciate the formality of your description.

Interesting they are using some 4-3 in there.

Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.

Oh **** me mods, it is BlackBob.

Mr. Laz 09-18-2013 11:02 AM

There was a big variety on offense too.

didn't run duplicate plays for entire quarters at a time


big difference from the Haley R2P2 where we often ran duplicate plays in the same series

Chief Faithful 09-18-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9990292)
The was a big variety on offense too.

didn't run duplicate plays for entire quarters at a time


big difference from the Haley R2P2 where we often ran duplicate plays in the same series

But, but, but,...you got to keep it simple so they can release their talent and play fast.

Mr. Laz 09-18-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9990296)
But, but, but,...you got to keep it simple so they can release their talent and play fast.

Herpy Derpy ... verdy derpy burpie /Haley

Direckshun 09-18-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9990041)
Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.

Keep in mind I only eyed the second half, but:

* The Chiefs only went nickel on a passing down once.
* The Chiefs' dime package was four safeties: Berry (there is no place he didn't line up: ILB, OLB, deep, LOS, slot, over the TE), Lewis (deep 99% of the time), Abdullah at nickel usually covering the slot, and Demps at dime frequently covering the slot.
* Abdullah, as I said, was almost always playing NCB. Never noticed him at the star, but maybe once.

Red Gorilla 09-18-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9990311)
Keep in mind I only eyed the second half, but:

* The Chiefs only went nickel on a passing down once.
* The Chiefs' dime package was four safeties: Berry (there is no place he didn't line up: ILB, OLB, deep, LOS, slot, over the TE), Lewis (deep 99% of the time), Abdullah at nickel usually covering the slot, and Demps at dime frequently covering the slot.
* Abdullah, as I said, was almost always playing NCB. Never noticed him at the star, but maybe once.

Thanks man. Four safeties is pretty wild... I wonder if Abdullah will be the full time nickelback or if he was just in for Robinson?

Mr. Laz 09-18-2013 11:19 AM

I seemed like i noticed more safeties on the field than cornerbacks sometimes.

weird considering Dallas wasn't trying to run the ball



reflection on our corners or just health issues?

Red Gorilla 09-18-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9990317)
reflection on our corners or just health issues?

Hard to say. I'm thinking it's the health thing mostly as Robinson was out. That, and Cooper and Parker probably don't know the playbook yet.

Direckshun 09-18-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9990315)
Thanks man. Four safeties is pretty wild... I wonder if Abdullah will be the full time nickelback or if he was just in for Robinson?

I think they're going four safeties because they hate all of their corners. I don't even think they like Dunta that much -- they were playing him with the deep 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason.

Meanwhile, Reid/Dorsey have shown an affinity for versatile safeties who can cover. They drafted Commings out of Georgia who can play both, and Abdullah and Demps can both cover pretty well.

Really the only safety that doesn't cover that great is Lewis, who they used almost exclusively as a center fielder against Dallas (they played him up at the LOS a lot against JAX, though).

Direckshun 09-18-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9990326)
Hard to say. I'm thinking it's the health thing mostly as Robinson was out. That, and Cooper and Parker probably don't know the playbook yet.

All they asked Parker to do anyway was blitz the one snap I saw him out there on a passing down.

Red Gorilla 09-18-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9990454)
I think they're going four safeties because they hate all of their corners. I don't even think they like Dunta that much -- they were playing him with the deep 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason.

Meanwhile, Reid/Dorsey have shown an affinity for versatile safeties who can cover. They drafted Commings out of Georgia who can play both, and Abdullah and Demps can both cover pretty well.

Really the only safety that doesn't cover that great is Lewis, who they used almost exclusively as a center fielder against Dallas (they played him up at the LOS a lot against JAX, though).

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9990496)
All they asked Parker to do anyway was blitz the one snap I saw him out there on a passing down.



Interesting and thanks for posting... I kind of think the personnel will change week to week to get the best match ups but, we'll see.

If there was ever a game they were going to use Dunta, it would be this one. He has knocked the **** out of the Eagles receivers and played them hard the last couple of years. Maybe there is a fear factor there? LOL

NJChiefsFan 09-18-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9989606)
Poe is an Ox, I'm super fired up.

Summary of all defensive threads.

Easy 6 09-18-2013 05:12 PM

Direckshun, you just have too much time on your hands LMAO, but I genuinely appreciate this effort.

Unique defensive looks? flexible personnel? a creative DC?... let me just take a minute to, ah, hang on... :whackit:


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