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Valiant 05-11-2014 01:10 PM

Or maybe, like some players. He needs to play to understand.

Easy 6 05-11-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10623337)
Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunnell should be included

Brunell to an extent, but Reid probably had pretty much no personnel say with him... Hasselbeck, I'd have to disagree, he's 6'4.

milkman 05-11-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Idahojim (Post 10623301)
Who would you rather have of the three. Anyone remember how good Daniel looked in the San Diego game? Anyone remember the name of his mentor - that short guy in New Orleans. Bray will be the odd man out. As he should be.

Anyone remember who was Matt Cassel's mentor in New England?

Sully 05-11-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10623234)
Reid doesn't really give a flip about size, he's used undersized guys throughout his career... Detmer, Garcia, Kolb, now Murray... I'm sure theres more.



I'm on your side with Bray, but don't look to his size as some kind of saving grace...


Kolb is undersized?

Easy 6 05-11-2014 02:25 PM

Yeah, if the understudy has any real talent begging to be whittled into shape and brought forth, a HOF mentor is a great thing to have... but a turds a turd no matter how much of a genius his teacher is.

Easy 6 05-11-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 10623483)
Kolb is undersized?

Eh, at 6'3 220 you probably have me there, he honestly doesn't look that big though.

Even though its probably a lot closer to 6'2 212, he isn't exactly small.

BWillie 05-11-2014 02:34 PM

That's cuz he's a mouth breather

Strongside 05-11-2014 02:36 PM

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Fairplay 05-11-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10623194)
They need to cut Daniel.


I believe they will he is an expense they don't need.

I expect the QB order will be Smith, Murray then Bray.

Saccopoo 05-11-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10623283)
Be honest, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not Murray can be better than Daniel at this point.

No idea, no clue... be honest.

Nope.

But based on his size and measurables and tendencies at the same level, he is, at best, the same guy. And Daniel definitely had more poise at the college level. Murray did some really stupid shit throughout his career.

I fail to see the reason why people would be excited by Murray when he's the same guy as Daniel with less experience and less athleticism. Plus his mechanics aren't very good.

What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?

Nothing.

Easy 6 05-11-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10623563)
What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?

The same guy for a lot less money?

saphojunkie 05-11-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10623563)
Nope.

But based on his size and measurables and tendencies at the same level, he is, at best, the same guy. And Daniel definitely had more poise at the college level. Murray did some really stupid shit throughout his career.

I fail to see the reason why people would be excited by Murray when he's the same guy as Daniel with less experience and less athleticism. Plus his mechanics aren't very good.

What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?

Nothing.

Well he's no first round guard, that's for sure.

Baby Lee 05-11-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10623522)

Shoo shoo reeruned flu!!

Chief Roundup 05-11-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10623198)
"Was"

He has a grasp of it now

Was still means that he is behind. If he struggled he probably always will struggle.

Chief Roundup 05-11-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10623224)
How the **** is Murray going to leap frog Daniel when he's basically Daniel with a worse release, less poise, less athleticism, less experience, etc.? He's a poor man's Chase Daniel.

They are the same ****ing guy with the exception that Daniel didn't shit down his leg with the regularity that Murray did.

Anybody thinking that Murray gives you anything over Daniel is a reerun. Flat out, full on reerun.

Murray was a ****ing waste of a pick.

**** that guy. **** that pick.

You are so full of shit on this.
There is not one scout that has said anything like this.


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