Luzap,

Speak for yourself. I know there are people on here that think I am credible. They have told me. I could care less if you think I am credible or not. You spend most of your time guessing on here anyway.

No, Peterson hasnt had the full 17 years. He has had 12 and only three playoff wins. I doubt that he will get anymore. Like I have said before, the Chiefs are closer to the bottom then they are to the top. At least you can do simple math. Thats a start.

Packfan,

I know that you keep telling me that you know so much more about football than I do (or just about anyone else for that matter), but would you mind clarifying for me just how you figure Carl has had 12 seasons with the Chiefs?

I'm going by memory here, and there is a chance you could be right, but I'm pretty sure Carl just completed his 11th season.

Luz
doesn't this make you wrong twice (on the same issue?)...

1989-2000 is 12 seasons.

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It looks I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!

mizzou5,

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I've been a season ticket holder longer than I thought!

Luz
it's been 12 years i've thoroughly enjoyed being a fan of the chiefs...<BR>

Luzap,

Well I guess I am wrong about you being able to do simple math.

Ken,
Let me just add my .02 here.
To me the issue isn't credibility. I've agreed with many of your points. It's the insulting, attacking style of your posts.
Whether you see it or not, every time you post, you insult and attack the intelligience of every poster with your generalized "most Chief fans"
Because "most Chief fans" want to look for the positives, even while realizing that there are a lot of negatives, we, almost all of us, fall into that "most Chiefs fans" category. And that category is always assotiated with some type of insult from you.

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Red Eyes
Leading the charge to scalp Goonther MaGoo, The 3 Stooges, and Limp Willie!

Packfan-

Milkman is right.

xoxo~
gaz
hoping this time it sticks.<BR>

Milkman, Gaz,

I dont believe I have ever insulted either of you. Luzap and I go back a long way. Dont take what I say to him as a personal insult to you. In most cases, I am not the one who is the first to insult. I fight fire with fire though. Luzap likes to guess and ridicule at the same time. When he is wrong, which is often, I challenge him on it in the same demeanor that he does. Its OK to be wrong, but Luzap (and a few) others are so obnoxious with their inaccurate information.

Ken,
You have never insulted us personally.
It's your "most Chiefs fans" blanket statement that we find insulting.

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Red Eyes
Leading the charge to scalp Goonther MaGoo, The 3 Stooges, and Limp Willie!

Ken-

Milkman is right again.

You regularly bash "Chiefs Fans" as stupid, brainwashed idiots and then seem shocked when some Chiefs fans take offense. Perhaps if you quit painting with such a broad brush, you might not cause quite so much collateral damage and might not take quite so much heat.

xoxo~
gaz
innocent [okay, not really] bystander.<BR>

Milkman and Gaz,

I never say "all Chief fans". I use words like "most" and "some" or "many". There are always exceptions. Please, what I say to Luzap or Bliss has nothing to do with you guys. You have read some of their stuff, you know what I mean.

Packfan-

I must correct you. The problem is that you do not use words like "most" and "some" or "many." I remember this because you and I have had this exact same conversation before.

xoxo~
gaz
correcting a faulty memory.<BR>

I find the words "most" or even "many" to be insulting. If Ken used "some" or a "few" or "my _______(neighbor, co-worker, sister/wife), the Chiefs fan", I'd be less inclined to take offense.

Gaz,

Show me what you are talking about! Give me an example, ie post topic and #. I respond enough on here that it shouldnt be that hard for you to get many examples. <P>