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Fire Me Boy! 07-15-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8742570)
Cut up some bacon, half a pack into bits or chunks. When it's fully cooked add a tablespoon of flour, keep adding the flour until it looks like paste. Stir constantly. When it looks like a white paste add about 4-5 cups of milk on high. It'll thicken as the heat rises. If its too thick add more milk to thin it out.


If its too thin add more flour. The key is constantly stir the gravy.

I'm not sure about your description of "paste." Your roux shouldn't be chunky or dry. It should be thick and bubbly, and you have to cook it some to cook out the flour flavor. For white gravy, don't cook too long. The roux should still be very pale.

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8742607)
2% or even Non-Fat will thicken fine.... The flour controls the thickness, not the milk


It's also worth understanding that the longer you cook it, the less thickening power it has. So a white or blonde roux will thicken much more effectively than a brick roux. But the longer it cooks, the deeper its flavor.

sedated 07-15-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8742607)
2% or even Non-Fat will thicken fine.... The flour controls the thickness, not the milk

That doesnt mean you can pour straight water in there and get the same effect.

Ive typically used cream and added water if its too thick (which is rare)

Fire Me Boy! 07-15-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8742621)
That doesnt mean you can pour straight water in there and get the same effect.

Ive typically used cream and added water if its too thick (which is rare)

Actually, while you won't get the flavor, you absolutely can create gravy out of water. The flour will definitely thicken it, just like it would milk.

R8RFAN 07-15-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8742630)
Actually, while you won't get the flavor, you absolutely can create gravy out of water. The flour will definitely thicken it, just like it would milk.

You are right

Fire Me Boy! 07-15-2012 02:06 PM

Cornstarch is a great thickener for gravies, too. Just make a 2:1 cold water to cornstarch slurry and slowly drizzle it into your heated liquid base. Bring it to a boil, and take it off a minute or so before it gets to the desired thickness (it'll thicken as it cools).

Note from a previous post: Do NOT use cornstarch and water as the roux. You wouldn't do a roux and cornstarch - one or the other.

Reaper16 07-15-2012 02:23 PM

Don't people get banned now for bumping old threads?

Fire Me Boy! 07-15-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8742679)
Don't people get banned now for bumping old threads?

I had a worthwhile comment to add. :p

R8RFAN 07-15-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8742643)
Cornstarch is a great thickener for gravies, too. Just make a 2:1 cold water to cornstarch slurry and slowly drizzle it into your heated liquid base. Bring it to a boil, and take it off a minute or so before it gets to the desired thickness (it'll thicken as it cools).

Note from a previous post: Do NOT use cornstarch and water as the roux. You wouldn't do a roux and cornstarch - one or the other.

I use cornstarch when thickening sauces for stir fry

Bowser 07-15-2012 02:28 PM

A heapin helpin of B&G sounds pretty damn tasty right now.

Phobia 07-15-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 2467349)
Are you referring to a gravy mix?

Because if you are just using flour, I recommend not straining it. I let it cook into the sausage with the grease for a minute or two, then start adding milk.

Agreed. The grease is often the best part.

Fire Me Boy! 07-15-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8742693)
I use cornstarch when thickening sauces for stir fry

Yeah, cornstarch is used in a ton of oriental sauces.

sedated 07-15-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8742630)
Actually, while you won't get the flavor, you absolutely can create gravy out of water. The flour will definitely thicken it, just like it would milk.

Just so Im clear, you are saying that if I make 2 identical roux batches, and add water to one and cream to the other, that they will end up with the same thickness?

Phobia 07-15-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8742679)
Don't people get banned now for bumping old threads?

Do we not have enough threads discussing this issue for you?

sedated 07-15-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8742643)
Note from a previous post: Do NOT use cornstarch and water as the roux. You wouldn't do a roux and cornstarch - one or the other.

Perhaps I am misreading, but these two sentences seem to say the exact opposite.

R8RFAN 07-15-2012 02:33 PM

Kinda like chicken gravy.... if you are straining the hard crunchies from the oil you just fried the chicken in, you are missing a treat on the mashed taters


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