why you getting hostile? i have been saying all along that it will be a hard fought game and that i think we will come out on top though. and I WILL come back either way. i'm not here to be a troll, just want to debate whose team will win.

Well, dont expect to come to this website, talking smack about how you are going to own us and not receive some smack back. There is no hostility. As for your trolldom--Like your 2nd year safety, yet to be decided.

You want to debate whose team will win? I guess I missed the part where you said "Who's team do you think will win?" Maybe I was too busy reading the "we will OWN you" stuff...

The Jets do have a good defense. A very good defense. However, I just don't see how they have enough to effectively hold KC to 17 points, on opening day, at Arrowhead.

Realistically, I see KC winning this game, not easily, but by a comfortable margin; 7 points or so. The offense will most likely rack up about 28+ points. If all things are clicking, expect 35+.

My prediction is 28-21.

well for one we signed ty law. we also drafted justin miller who is immensely talented and ha sbeen ripping it up at camp thus far. we also have a player named derek strait who is a pretty good nickel/dime back. at safety we have eric coleman who came in and pretty much excelled inhis starting role last year. we got rid of reggie tongue and mcgraw is healthy. we also have 2 draftees in rhodes and maddox who are incredibly gifted athletes and have been making big plays in camp so far.

well i came in and said law will be out there helping shut down your passing game. just a little fun jab to get the debate going. i didnt say anything about "owning" until nytefyre called me neck-licker (whatever that means) and started with it.

honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.

Another view.

Law In, Mickens Out
By Sean M. Deegan
Publisher, JetsInsider.com
sdeegan@jetsinsider.com August 8th, 2005

Jets Head Coach Herm Edwards officially announced this morning that the team has agreed in principal to a long term deal with All-Pro CB Ty Law. To make room for Law the team released 10 year veteran CB Ray Mickens. Law is at Hofstra completing a physical this morning and could be introduced to the media as early as this afternoon. Details of his contract are not yet known. Mickens, who was coming back from an injured knee suffered last year was used mainly as a nickel back during his Jet career and was expected to take over as the Jets starting left cornerback due to the retirement of former starter Donnie Abraham earlier this summer. In addition to Mickens, the team also announced the release of S Derek Pagel, G Dave Yovanovits, RB Delvin Joyce and CB Roosevelt Williams.

Well, if were going on speculation, our D will be number one next year because Mitchell, and Derrick Johnson, and Kendrell Bell, and Pat Surtain, and Sammy Knight, and Carlos Hall, Make our defense a top 10, paired with the number one offense. then, Allen will inherently improve, along with sims, dalton, and browning.

First of all, let me remind you of a minor, somewhat trivial issue:

YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED TY LAW.

The 2 parties have agreed, in principle, to a deal that it contingent on Law passing a physical. There's a better-than-good chance that Law CANNOT pass a physical.

Justin Miller is immensely talented. He also isn't the most disciplined person in the world. He could be a big boom, or a big bust. The fact that you're counting on him says alot already.

Derek Strait is as good a nickel back as Benny Sapp. Who, you ask? Exactly.

Coleman and McGraw are ok. They're also very young. Coleman (his name is Erik with a K, by the way) may be more athletic than Tongue, but Tongue's experience should not be discounted...more on that later.

2 draftees - translation - 2 guys that may or may not make it out of training camp.

Tongue is gone, Abraham retired, and now you've released Mickens...you have a rookie and several 2nd-year players in your secondary. No veteran leadership whatsoever. You MIGHT have gotten Law, which will help. Lack of leadership like that is a recipe for disaster.

Yeah, maybe you missed the part about our whole best offense in the nfl.... Your defense is good, Ill give you that. But no defense can shutdown the Chiefs when they are on. And I didnt call you a necklicker til you said own. Get your facts straight.

One of the best in the takeaway/giveaway category...with Donnie Abraham, Mickens, and Reggie Tongue.

Losing a starting S, CB, and NCB shouldn't be so lightly dismissed.

He selectively forgot this:

hello, jets fan here. guarantee you are wrong on this one. he WILL be our starting cb and he'll be shutting down your passing game come sept 11!

Hey, necklicker, we faced three defenses better than you last year a total of four times. Twice we were really out of sync.
Broncos:24 (out of sync)
Baltimore: 27
Tampa Bay: 31 (Out of Sync)
Broncos: 45
For those of us keeping score, thats an average of 31.5 ppg. :hmmm:

2004 Jets regular season... 10-6

The 10 wins...

49ers 2-14
Fish 4-12
Fish 4-12
Browns 4-12
Cards 6-10
Texans 7-9
Bengals 8-8
Bills 9-7
Seahawk 9-7
Chargers 12-4

After a 5-0 start, the Jets were 5-6 the rest of the way. So while I am concerned with the first game, the Jets are a bit overrated IMO.