Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'm telling you, DV is fucking with the media.

They probably won't play him until the regular season because they know if he gets injured, their LB corps isn't nearly as good. I think he's fine, they are just holding him out. They aren't concerned about his current health status, they are concerned about what might be. I've been wrong before, though...

Originally Posted by Toad

Wha-huh?

Why in the world would they puposely hold him out and limit his reps when he is trying to learn:

1) new defense- not much experience in the 3-4 alignment
2) new team
3) new players
3) new coaches

Help me out...

Originally Posted by TRR

Q&A with DICK VERMEIL
Aug 25, 2005, 4:29:52 PM

Q: There was some question about his shoulder when you signed him – that it might not be 100%. Did he lead you on that it was and wouldn’t be a factor this year?

VERMEIL: “He passed our physical. Anyone who passes our physical I assume he’s going to be able to play.”

Originally Posted by Toad

Wha-huh?

Why in the world would they puposely hold him out and limit his reps when he is trying to learn:

1) new defense- not much experience in the 3-4 alignment
2) new team
3) new players
3) new coaches

Help me out...

Originally Posted by TEX

I said, you like the rest of us, don't have a clue so I included myself in there as well. Yes, I know there is limited hitting in TC and I know you were there and have seen it first hand. I also stated in another post that you are pretty credible so that's why I can't understand how/why you keep insisting that Bell will be fine when he's been held out of the limited contact in training camp. Being able to move well in shorts is far different that being able to do so in pads.

Now, D.V. is sensing that Bell is holding back and just last week Bell instructed folks to "watch" him and see for themselves if he could play. Way too much smoke to not be an issue IMO.

I'm not being picky, at least I don't mean to be - the fact is Bell is not right and this is the FIRST time that I've seen where you have even hinted that there could be a problem.

Originally Posted by TRR

I never insisted anything. I just posted my opinion on what I saw of Bell at camp. I do feel as though I know a little bit more about Bell because I've seen him live this TC. The last time most people on this board saw him play was 2003.

Bell may very well miss 16 games...I'm just telling you the feeling I got of Bell, watching him two times a day for a week straight.

Originally Posted by Toad

Wha-huh?

Why in the world would they puposely hold him out and limit his reps when he is trying to learn:

1) new defense- not much experience in the 3-4 alignment
2) new team
3) new players
3) new coaches

Help me out...

Originally Posted by jspchief

More from Vermeil:

We're just saving Bell for the important games like the Superbowl. We don't want to show our opponent what he's capable of. If we can get one game out of him this year, it was well worth the 2.5 million.

Dexter McCleon is fine. When he gives up 150+ yards of recieving, it's the safety's fault. It's the safety's job to cover Dexter's man, while Dexter's job is to try and stay within 15 yards of the receiver. We just need to do a better job of coaching.

If we're going to be a Superbowl team, at some time we have to win more games than we lose. Especially in the play-offs. Right now we should be in the Superbowl, but we've had an odd pre-season schedule, where it rained a few days. That's hard to overcome. We've also been mistreated by the schedule we've been given. Real Superbowl teams don't get there by being better than all the teams they face. They get there by getting a pile of cupcakes gift-wrapped on a silver platter. I'd also like to complain about the roster limits. Every other team has somehow learned to live with the same limitations, but I feel that it's a good excuse for why I can only build half a team. Did I mention we have the players, but need to do a better job coaching them?

Originally Posted by jspchief

More from Vermeil:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm assuming you meant 4-3, since we don't play a 3-4. He played his entire college career in a 4-3.