Woods and Siavii are here for this year, the salary cap makes it work that way. Woods would already be gone if it was doable, so of course it's not.

Are you guys wanting to trade for Ramsey during this season or after the season is over? I'm not sure he can fit under our cap to do it before the year's over. He does have a first round pick contract.

Won't happen, too big of a cap hit.

Can't the Redskins agree to assuming Woods' contract while we assume Ramsey's?

No, when you've given a player a signing bonus, when you cut or trade him you take that entire prorated hit when he is removed from your team.

If we could do it, I think he'd be an improvement over what we have behind Green. However, cap issues and "middle of the season" concerns won't allow it to happen.

Yes and no.

They can assume the contract, which will erase his base from our cap. But they can't assume the cap hit created by the pro-rated siging bonus that we paid out two years ago. Woods' pro-rated bonus would dump about 4 million on our cap.

What's Ramsey's bonus? Do we know?

Ramseys bonus isn't an issue to us that's the Skins issue. If we were gonna take him on, it would be his base salary that's the issue.

When you trade you lose the players base salary but the prorated bonus becomes a hit to your cap. When you take on a player in a trade you get nothing of the bonus but take on the base salary.

the two picks we got for Fujita would be about it.

I admit I'm a bit confused here. Can't the two teams switch the existing bonuses with the agreement of both players? Ramsey wants out of DC and Woods wants out of KC. Why wouldn't they cooperate?

No, there is no way to change bonus money the team is stuck with that. The only way would be if the player paid back the bonus to the team and well that won't happen.

Before you make a deal like this you have to know what is going to take place after DV leaves. If Saunders is going to be HC, then it makes a ton of sence, if thats not the case I don't want to see the Chiefs trading draft picks for a guy when we don't know what the next HC wants.

If its me you make Saunders the HC, give Gun a ton of $$$ to stay, make the trade for Ramsey. We could retool very quickly on offense, and continue the build up on defense.

We need to invest some FA cash and high draft picks on the Oline, and at WR. I still think you have to go Defense in the first round next year. A D lineman, CB would be prefered by Hoover

So conceivably, they could agree to pay it back and receive the same amount from the other team. Right?

Very good post. Rep. :thumb:

No thanks.

Todd Collins > Patrick Ramsey

Virtually any 1st or 2nd round QBOTF pick > Ramsey

The guy can't keep the starting job over an aged and hobbled Mark Brunell. He's a terrible decision maker from what I've seen.