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Mike in SW-MO 02-06-2006 09:45 AM

I missed the second hold call and the out-of bouncds play, so I can't offer opinions on those.

I thought the offensive pass interference call was absolutely correct. the fact that it frequently isn't called doesn't change the fact that the receiver pusshed off. Not only did the receiver extend his arm with his hand on the defenders body, but the defender went from leaning forward toward the receiver to leaning backward with his weight on his heals, away from the receiver. The writer points out all of the people that thought it was a bad call. Every one of thm except Madden was an offensive player. I'd like to get the opinion of a defensive back.

The first holding call was correct as well. The RT hooked his arm around the throat of the defender and pulled him backwards in a classic bulldog maneuver. Can't do that.

The fumble call would have been wasy to miss by an official depending on where was standing. On one replay from the hasselbeck's left I said no way he was touched. Fumble. From the other angle, he was clearly swiped going down. Down by contact. The right call was made. Whether or not the original call was a bad call or just wrong depends on where the ifficial was standing. Anyone catch where he was at?

Phobia 02-06-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arc
You can sell a lot more merchandise if an east coast team wins, than if a small market in a distant outpost wins.

How is Pittsburgh "east coast"? They're 6 hours from the Atlantic.

I enjoyed the game. Stevens sure is lucky the refs sucked or the finger would be pointed where it belongs - at him - despite his TD reception.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-06-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
How is Pittsburgh "east coast"? They're 6 hours from the Atlantic.

I enjoyed the game. Stevens sure is lucky the refs sucked or the finger would be pointed where it belongs - at him - despite his TD reception.

Pittsburgh isn't 'east coast' but they are a 'storied franchise' of the NFL. That alone gives them a much greater fan base all over the country, which translates well when hocking NFL material. All the fairweather fans now in their 40's and 50's who grew up 'steeler fans' (similiar to the cowboy and 49er fans of my generation) now have a reason to go out and buy another steeler jersey and or sweatshirt.

As a fan of Mizzou football, the St. Louis Cardinals, and the Chiefs, I feel I am well-versed in pointing out instances when officials jobbed the other team :D

In fact, last night was so bad, it reminded me of when Vince McMahon screwed Bret Hart out of the WWF title by having Earl Hebner ring the bell when Hart never submitted (the Montreal Screwjob...yes it's sad to say I made that comparision).

Frosty 02-06-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
How is Pittsburgh "east coast"? They're 6 hours from the Atlantic.

BFD. Spokane (in eastern Washington) is six hours from Seattle. Would you consider it on the West Coast?

Besides, from our point of view, anything east of the Mississippi is "east coast". :p

morphius 02-06-2006 10:41 AM

I thought the push off in the end zone was a fair call, does it always get called, no, should it, hell yes. I wasn't rooting for either team to win, so my bias is at an all time low. Watching in HD damn close to the TV made it more then obvious that Ben's dive the ball did go over the goal line, maybe by a full centimeter, but it was obvious that it was a TD. The holding by Pruiit was also obvious he pulled the guys shirt over his sholder blade while on the line of scrimmage, easy call to make.

That holding call late on the Stevens catch though was complete BS, as well as the 15 yarder against Hasselbeck for making a great tackle. It seems that if you get within half a second of the clock reaching zero the refs almost always seem to miss the false start, should be such an easy thing to get right, but the stupid refs blow this all the time. I would love to see this moved up to the booth, put a big red light that goes off around their screen (like the backboards in NBA games) when the clock reaches 0. Should make it obvious enough and they could call it down to the field.

For the most part it was a boring game, and it wasn't the penaltis that really made either of these teams look good or bad, when I look back at this game it will not be the bad calls that stick in my head, it will be how neither team looked sharp at all that I will remember.

Phobia 02-06-2006 10:42 AM

Spokane west coast? Not really. No more so than Las Vegas.

Chiefs Express 02-06-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
It's not just you. I'm not into conspiracy theories regarding the NFL but I do believe they have a preference for a certain team winning. It was clear last night that Seattle was NOT the preferred team.

The two penalties, both questionable, were HUGE calls that impacted scoring opportunities. With the addition of the non-touchdown for Pitt, the :shake: Stealers win.

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morphius 02-06-2006 10:48 AM

The way the group that I was with saw the out of bounds catch was that his second foot clearly was down out of bounds before the other foor hit the pylon.

The fumble was also a good reversal, watching at live speed he didn't look like he was touched, but obviously he was. I'd take that over a down by contact any day, because they were able to at least make the right call in the end, whereas if some idiot judge comes running in pointing at the ground even if he didn't blow his whistle before the ball changed hands, suddenly it isn't reversable.

Chiefs Express 02-06-2006 11:02 AM

I don't agree with Fox.

The Seahawks had some opportunities to score and didn't. The penalties were called at inopportune times, but looked like penalties in almost every instance. The call on Hasslebeck for blocking below the knees seemed like a stretch.

If I were going to back a team, it would have been the Steelers to stay with the AFC.

The bottom line is that in the end, regardless of the penalties called, the Steelers would have won the game. When they needed to perform, they did and Seattle did not.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-06-2006 11:30 AM

Chiefs fans have joined the Bronco faithful in the blame it on the ref game...

Officials or no officials...the Steelers would've won regardless. The NFC is wicked bad.

vailpass 02-06-2006 11:33 AM

Scoreboard.

Taco John 02-06-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Spokane west coast? Not really. No more so than Las Vegas.



People in Spokane consider themselves West Coast... Hell, so do people in Boise...

StcChief 02-06-2006 12:08 PM

The Seahag's recievers continue to Drop balls on critical situations. SSDY.

Don't blame the Zebras.

HC_Chief 02-06-2006 12:12 PM

Worst SB officiating ever.

jidar 02-06-2006 12:20 PM

That was offensive pass interferance. He pushed the guy and the guys weight went back onto his heels. I don't understand how so many people could think otherwise, he reached up and shoved the guy, how the hell more blatant would it have to be? Do we only call it if they shove them hard enough to knock them down?
sheesh


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